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Butterfly - anyone watching

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:04

Opening sequence got pretty much all the stereotypes in...

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Barracker · 14/10/2018 22:10

Also "we were told to keep it in check".
Because boys who like dresses are horrifying? It's a nasty habit that needs suppressing? What?

Also that comment at the beginning he made to his sister about periods - what the heck was that about?

SputnikBear · 14/10/2018 22:09

I wanted to be a boy because boys were less catty and got to do more fun stuff that I wasn’t allowed to do, like camping out and making fires and climbing high on playground equipment. Also I’d read The Famous Five and wanted to be George because she was tough and spunky, and had a dog and a private island. George was clearly transgender.

IAmNotInvisible · 14/10/2018 22:07

Oh, and my brother got to go out at nights as a teenager. I wasn't allowed.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 22:07

Lily Maynard's take:

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/butterfly-a-view-from-the-cocoon

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NotTerfNorCis · 14/10/2018 22:06

When I was at secondary school (starting in the eighties) we had male goths who got to wear make-up and a few girls who wore Doc Martins and men's clothes and cut their hair short. None of them have grown up to be trans. There was never any suggestion they were trapped in the wrong body.

IAmNotInvisible · 14/10/2018 22:06

I wanted to be a boy too. My brother got bigger portions of food, first dibs at seconds of cake and much better birthday presents than I got.

Three pairs of itchy bobbly nylon pants is not a suitable birthday present for a girl of 7. Just saying.

PlantsArePeopleToo · 14/10/2018 22:06

@Bluntness100

What did you think of all the sexism?

Barracker · 14/10/2018 22:06

Anyone who grew up through the eighties will surely be thinking, er, boys and makeup, fine, boys and dancing, fine, boys and pink, fine...how has an entire generation reverted to fifties style sexism of the only boys who like this stuff are actually girls inside?

Melamin · 14/10/2018 22:04

Bluntness Really? You are going to watch the next 2 episodes?

EverardDigby · 14/10/2018 22:03

I wanted to be a boy late 70s/early 80s due to thinking boys got to do better things and also probably an abusive family life. I just grew out of it because being trans wasn't an option.

RepealtheGRA · 14/10/2018 22:03

Thanks to those who took one for the team and watched it. I just couldn’t. Dad HIT him for wearing pink? Shock wow Surely the general public will think abusive/homophobic when they see that? Won’t they? Sad

scotsheather · 14/10/2018 22:02

I mean gay in the loose sense of a boy not really conforming to masculine image, not the adult stuff. If people were more accepting the trans thing would be less an issue.

JillyArmeeen · 14/10/2018 22:01

I want to know where all the trans kids where when I was at school?
Why now and why so many?
I started secondary in 1996, there were 1200 kids at that school.
I have a theory, and that is, instead of being trans, all the kids with 'problems' be it family break down, autism, confusion about sexuality whatever, were anorexic, self harming, smoking drinking.
It just looks like a new way of lashing out and taking control to me.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 22:01

If you were affected by issues raised in this programme...

Mermaids
Stonewall
Scottish Trans Alliance
Samaritans

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scotsheather · 14/10/2018 22:00

What is wrong with being a gay boy? Jes do kids really think its a big deal when in reality most 'trans' kids are gay.

Bluntness100 · 14/10/2018 22:00

I quite enjoyed it and thought it was quite good.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 22:00

And next week is all about the importance of puberty blockers.

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Melamin · 14/10/2018 21:59

I thought that we were getting to a place where boys could have dancing lessons. Confused

IAmNotInvisible · 14/10/2018 21:59

And sympathy vote shocker for the end, with no challenge from the mum.

NotTerfNorCis · 14/10/2018 21:59

So Max doesn't think he's gay. Wonder if he'll be attracted to men or women when he's older. I thought almost all transgirls who're diagnosed as children turn out to be attracted to men.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:59

Dad wrestling with his emotions in a manly way

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:58

Abusive father. Wee boy thinks his dad left cos of him being girly - dad said he did

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scotsheather · 14/10/2018 21:57

All the school girls wearing skirts from what I've seen. More stereotyping yeh.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 21:57

Three episodes I think?

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Melamin · 14/10/2018 21:57

I watched a bit.

How many episodes are there?

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