Gov.uk statement about the GRA consultation

It is more like "We're not changing the lock, we're just removing the entire bloody door. But don't worry because you still get a key".

Actually Mandy’s Waxing Parlour may have a better chance, back sack and crack can so easily go wrong you know ; )

A feminist I follow on Twitter said the other day that saying changing the GRA will not affect the provisions of the Equality Act is like saying "We're not changing the lock, we're just making it much easier to get a copy of the key."

Exactly. Just what is this proportionate test that is so magically going to tell which men have magically become magical women and which ones haven't. It clearly can't exclude a sex offender/rapist/pedo so I think its not a very good magic spell is it?

But if anyone of either sex can identify into the protected characteristic of sex, then it isn't bloody protected is it? That is the whole point.

I can't decide whether they're stupid or if they think we are.

AWA = anti women activist how

We have always made clear that any reform of the Gender Recognition Act will not change the exceptions under the Equality Act that allow provision for single and separate sex spaces.

But if anyone of either sex can identify into the protected characteristic of sex, then it isn't bloody protected is it? That is the whole point.

If the might of the UK government can't keep women's prisons single-sex (and that is even without self-ID) then how exactly is Mandy's Waxing Parlour on the High Street supposed to manage it?

Help me whilst you're all here!

I keep seeing the acronym AWA.

What does it mean?

This is completely untrue

We have always made clear that any reform of the Gender Recognition Act will not change the exceptions under the Equality Act that allow provision for single and separate sex spaces.

They have rowed back on this since women's groups started to shine a light on their intentions.
womansplaceuk.org/government-commitments-on-single-sex-exemptions/
In 2016 Maria Miller tried to pre-empt GRA changes by changing gender reassignment to gender identity in a private members bill.

services.parliament.uk/bills/2016-17/genderidentityprotectedcharacteristic.html

This came from her Trans Enquiry and had the specific intention of rendering all sex exemptions null and void. She tried to rush it through in a Private Members Bill which only got stopped by the general election.

Other recommended changes are all documented here.
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmwomeq/390/39010.htm#_idTextAnchor213
Gender reassignment as a protected characteristic
17.The inclusion of “gender reassignment” as a protected characteristic in the Equality Act 2010 was a huge step forward and has clearly improved the position of trans people. However, it is clear to us that the use of the terms “gender reassignment” and “transsexual” in the Act is outdated and misleading; and may not cover wider members of the trans community. (Paragraph 107)
18.The protected characteristic in respect of trans people under the Equality Act should be amended to that of “gender identity”. This would improve the law by bringing the language in the Act up to date, making it compliant with Council of Europe Resolution 2048; and make it significantly clearer that protection is afforded to anyone who might experience discrimination because of their gender identity. (Paragraph 108)
19.The protections afforded by the Equality Act 2010 are intended to be available to all, including children and adolescents. (Paragraph 109)
20.The Equality and Human Rights Commission must be able to investigate complaints of discrimination raised by children and adolescents without the requirement to have their parents’ consent. (Paragraph 109)
Exemptions in respect of trans people
21.Significant concerns have been raised with us regarding the provisions of the Equality Act concerned with separate-sex and single-sex services and the genuine occupational requirement as these relate to trans people. These are sensitive areas, where there does need to be some limited ability to exercise discretion, if this is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim. However, we are not persuaded that this discretion should apply where a trans person has been recognised as of their acquired gender “for all legal purposes” under the Gender Recognition Act. In many instances this is unlikely, in any case, to meet the proportionate test. (Paragraph 132)
22.We recommend that the Equality Act be amended so that the occupational requirements provision and / or the single-sex / separate services provision shall not apply in relation to discrimination against a person whose acquired gender has been recognised under the Gender Recognition Act 2004. (Paragraph 132

To lie about this is very deceptive. They really need to be careful about trying to rewrite history here as it's all documented and easy to find. STOP LYING TO US.

Has this been posted?
@mragilligan
67% of MPs across all parties (and 78% of Tory MPs) are concerned that rules allowing men to self-identify as women and access women-only spaces could be exploited by abusive individuals. ComRes poll of MPs, September 2018.

We have always made clear that any reform of the Gender Recognition Act will not change the exceptions under the Equality Act that allow provision for single and separate sex spaces.

They can't introduce self-id then. If everyone can choose their own legal sex, then the protected characteristic of sex will disappear from the Equality Act because it will be meaningless.

I also don't know which coverage is being referred to.

Interesting...
The AWA want to revise the equality act next though. So we're still going to be fighting.

I watched the SG gg good morning interview for the first time and was quite shocked at how SG interprets the EA and the law

Yes, there is a lot of that going on. No one affected can afford to go to court for a better interpretation, and no one affected wants to be taken to court for a better interpretation, so they capitulate.

Changing the law bit by bit by deception.

We have always made clear that any reform of the Gender Recognition Act will not change the exceptions under the Equality Act that allow provision for single and separate sex spaces.

So GG and SG need to take note here.

I hope this will clarify things from a safeguarding POV.

I watched the SG gg good morning interview for the first time and was quite shocked at how SG interprets the EA and the law.

Yup Bernard . The Mail picked up the same story I noted.

I still wonder how that crap biased consultation document got passed - evidently by friends in very high places.

somebody read today's sunday times and shat themselves (metaphorically)

good

Which coverage are they referring to?

So maybe Penny Mordaunt telling us all that a transwoman is a woman is no longer the party line??

Did she lie? Was she badly advised? Does she not know the difference? So many possibilities.