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Is this what I think it is...Rimmel trans?

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takemeback · 14/10/2018 18:34

Is this a trans advert for foundation? Don't know what to think. Eradication of women?

Is this what I think it is...Rimmel trans?
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howard97A · 14/10/2018 19:01

My son was a goth 20 years ago, and I think it made him sympathetic to the problems women faced when walking home late at night !

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 14/10/2018 19:00

No problem with this, it is genuinely smashing the gender binary.

SnuggyBuggy · 14/10/2018 18:59

I personally don't object to this. Anyone can use make up if they want.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 14/10/2018 18:58

I think i understand where you are going with this OP

But I'm another with no problems with the advert, again if it was saying that a man wearing makeup is a woman that would be different

Dh has a virtually permanent shadow on his face, if that foundation covers it then im buying some

WokerThanWoke · 14/10/2018 18:58

It's interesting though that usually women in makeup adverts are airbrushed to fuck. Here not so much.

Earlywalker · 14/10/2018 18:58

feminism is supposed to be about knocking down gender stereotypes but now men can’t wear makeup? I might post an ad I saw for builders that dared to have an image of a women for us all to pick apart.

ScrambledSmegs · 14/10/2018 18:56

Obviously women were wearing fabulous makeup too. It was the 80s, you had to wear slap about an inch thick. It was practically the law.

ScrambledSmegs · 14/10/2018 18:55

My formative years were spent watching men in fabulous make-up on TOTP. I'm all for it, quite frankly.

DancingDakini · 14/10/2018 18:54

Lol a gender non conforming person wearing makeup it totally erasing women. Must stop it immediately.

numptynuts · 14/10/2018 18:54

Nah no issue with that at all.

FloralBunting · 14/10/2018 18:53

Nope. Don't be daft. Man who wears make up is, shockingly, still a man. His maleness isn't affected in the slightest.

I am not erased by a man doing stereotypically female things. If Rimmel was suggesting that the man in the picture was in fact a woman because he was wearing make up, because 'make up is for women', then I'd have an issue perhaps.

But it's not. So I don't.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 14/10/2018 18:53

Maybe if people accepted some men want to wear makeup, and that it's fine to do ss there wouldn't be as much gender confusion

This. Referring to certain products/activities as “feminine’s” as you have is a huge part of the problem.

Men want to wear make up, go nuts. Girls want to pay rugby go for it. Adverts showing women running around a rugby field don’t erase men. If everyone accepted that there aren’t feminine things to enjoy and masculine then there would be a lot less discussion needed about changing sex

PineappleSunrise · 14/10/2018 18:52

I am perfectly happy to see men expanding their sense of what is "permitted" in masculinity to allow themselves to wear make up. Why not?

Besides, MAC has been doing very well for over 20 years hiring male make up artists who are extremely good at making themselves look fab-lu-LOUS. (Sorry, we're watching Strictly on catch up in our house at the mo.)

WhirlyGigWhirlyGig · 14/10/2018 18:51

Lots of men wore makeup in the 80's and it was fine then although my mother wasn't keen. I'm sure men and women on tv wear it too. Foundation is not exclusively a female product now that everyone has free access to great skincare.

lexi727 · 14/10/2018 18:50

Men can wear makeup without being trans.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 14/10/2018 18:50

No issue with Rimmel marketing anything at men. It’s crappy make up so good luck with that!

I don’t think making money from men erases women. They don’t describe him as a woman in that ad, or even trans.

Cwenthryth · 14/10/2018 18:49

Why should makeup be a ‘feminine product’ though? That’s just stereotyping.

Cwenthryth · 14/10/2018 18:48

Marketing make up at men is great. It shouldn’t just be funnelled at pressuring women to conform to a particular beauty standard - it should be a tool for all people to express themselves how they want to be seen, if they want to use it - fab, go for it. Makeup≠woman.

takemeback · 14/10/2018 18:47

I suppose I suggested erasing women because this is a male model rather than a woman for what is usually considered a feminine product

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takemeback · 14/10/2018 18:47

Thanks for clarifying.

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Whitetulipofpeace · 14/10/2018 18:46

Maybe if people accepted some men want to wear makeup, and that it's fine to do ss there wouldn't be as much gender confusion.

bluetitsaretits · 14/10/2018 18:45

chaps in slap Grin

hipsterfun · 14/10/2018 18:43

The lads are welcome to my share, I’ve no use for it.

OvaHere · 14/10/2018 18:42

Men can wear make up if they want. Nothing wrong with that.

It's when people pretend that wearing make up makes a man a women that it becomes a problem of sexist stereotypes.

BettyDuMonde · 14/10/2018 18:41

Martin Kemp briefly appearing on Strictly last night made me come over all peculiar. I reckon it’s as good a time as any for another revivival of chaps-in-slap.

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