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Self ID questions

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TwistedStitch · 14/10/2018 16:25

I've just come across somebody on twitter encouraging people to support self ID because they are desperate to have their gender legally recognized but won't 'demean' themselves by applying for a GRC. I've seen others saying similar before, stuff about not wanting to 'lower' themselves or prove themselves to a doctor etc.

I've also seen LM stating that self ID is vital for them to be able to marry as their true gender- I'm unsure why LM cannot currently apply for a GRC.

I've seen TRAs arguing that the process is punitive as not every trans person has dysphoria- silly question but if you don't have dysphoria how are you trans?

I guess I'm wondering- is the real push for self ID because many who support it know that they don't meet the current criteria for a GRC? Also if something is as fundamental to your identity as this apparently is why wouldn't you engage with the process as it is now? It feels like those who have genuine dysphoria will take these steps. Then there are those who either don't meet the medical diagnosis or want to put in any effort but will jump at self ID because it is easy.

How can this not be open to abuse?

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CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 20:32

She thought that was an important part of the process which she described as partly to protect the applicant and partly to protect society.

She is right and she is not the only transwomen to express these feelings, self ID is not for her and other disphoria suffers benefit.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 20:28

but if you don't have dysphoria how are you trans?
Because some people feel they should be, no questions asked.

OldCrone · 14/10/2018 20:24

but if you don't have dysphoria how are you trans?

Please could someone answer this question?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 14/10/2018 18:58

According to the transwoman I chatted to while leafletting (who had a GRC) the process is designed to weed out fetishists and other dodgy applicants. The questions are quite searching. If you don't have serious dysphoria you are unlikely to be approved. She thought that was an important part of the process which she described as partly to protect the applicant and partly to protect society.

I can see very good reasons why some men who identify as women wouldn't want to answer probing questions about their motivation.

scotsheather · 14/10/2018 18:45

but if you don't have dysphoria how are you trans?

This. If it would give such rights normally reserved to females and often for good reason I have issue with getting a GRC without so much as a doctors assessment.

MIdgebabe · 14/10/2018 16:30

Because anyone who identifies as trans is lovely and innocent and misunderstood?