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BBC Sunday Morning Live now - 'sour faced feminists'

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HandsOffMyRights · 14/10/2018 11:43

I don't know who the guest with the ginger hair is, but
When poo-pooing the new feminist fairytale book, she's just said the book is written by

"Sour faced feminists with bad clothes, probably on their periods."

Who is she?

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HandsOffMyRights · 14/10/2018 23:34

Thanks - and sorry for the delay. I couldn't quite believe what I was hearing and about how women like to be rescued by men. Odious.

She was discussing the book in this article (which looked great and is being rolled out across primary schools to debunk gender stereotypes/myths)

metro.co.uk/2018/10/08/author-turns-fairy-tales-into-fairer-tales-8018057/

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LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 14:22

The stories themselves aren't bad, although if one's political view is that capitalism and the patriarchy prop each other up they might not be every- one's cup of tea.

Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and Rapunzel are all successful young women
They have used their brains, imagination and good sense to earn enough
money to look after themselves without a prince charming in sight
They decide to start a special club called The Fairy Godmothers, where they
use their money to help other clever young people with brilliant ideas.

Is the ending.

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 14:14

www.prexamples.com/2018/10/hsbc-publishes-book-of-fairer-fairy-tales/

Thanks. Here it is. Rapunzel as a property developer and Cinderella as a football manager. And why not?

The illustrations are dreadful.

concretesieve · 14/10/2018 14:07

I think the book is Fairer Tales published by HSBC(!) I'm sorry I can't make a link but it's available as a free download - IMO rather an ad for capitalism... . Hilary McKay looks much betterSmile

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 14:06

Or this ? Which has only just been published.

www.waterstones.com/book/fierce-fairytales/nikita-gill/9781409181590

If it is , Nikita Gill might come as a bit of a shock to Angela Epstein.

www.thebookseller.com/news/nikita-gill-publish-empowering-fairytales-trapeze-795541

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 13:56

And if it isn't, it's a beautiful book. I'm tempted to get it for myself.

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 13:50

It might be this ?

www.booktrust.org.uk/book/h/hilary-mckays-fairy-tales/

If it is, Adèle Geras and Melanie McDonagh in The Spectator loved it.

awfullybigreviews.blogspot.com/2017/12/hilary-mckays-fairy-tales-reviewed-by.html?m=1

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/fairy-tales-for-feisty-girls/

BumbrainusMaximus · 14/10/2018 13:12

The bbc needs to try and find more intelligent people to appear on its news programmes. It’s the Andrew marr show not its a fucking knockout. If I want to see fuckwits making fools of themselves I’ll watch big brother.

Thegirlinthefireplace · 14/10/2018 12:41

Shit, not shot

Thegirlinthefireplace · 14/10/2018 12:41

They said all this shot about the suffragettes. It's amazing how while legal changes have occurred, we have made no noticeable progress on mindset...

Im0gen · 14/10/2018 12:34

Is she the new Katie Hopkins ?

NothingOnTellyAgain · 14/10/2018 12:32

Did see it

"what is wrong with wanting to be saved "

saved from what?

AnyFucker · 14/10/2018 12:30

She also said that young people with mental health issues were (to paraphrase) hsving ideas put into their head.

Lottapianos · 14/10/2018 12:30

Angela Epstein. She's a misogynist handmaiden, writes for the Daily Mail and can usually be relied to come out with claptrap like that. That's particularly foul from her though

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 14/10/2018 12:29

And that comment she made at the end along the lines of what is wrong with wanting to be saved

She was being deliberately antagonistic I think.

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 14/10/2018 12:27

She did come over as a bit stupid and that chap next to her (sorry dont know who he is) looked horrified!

Trousered · 14/10/2018 12:21

Interesting watch, she was not supported by the other three on the show, and came over as a bit stupid really.

GoldenBuns · 14/10/2018 12:19

She's on twitter.

Melamin · 14/10/2018 12:19

BBC are wheeling out some really stunning guests this week what with Sophie telling us that the word woman needs an x in it to include non white, non middle class women earlier this week. Otherwise, silence. Hmm

NothingOnTellyAgain · 14/10/2018 12:16

Getting a woman on the screen to slag women off is better for them as if a man does it there is more trouble.

What is the book, sounds good Grin

BumbrainusMaximus · 14/10/2018 12:12

I’m more concerned that the bbc thinks there’s nothing wrong with her to be honest. She’s just got shit for brains. Fair enough, lots of people do. It’s the fact that our national broadcaster thinks there’s nothing wrong with sticking such a thick sexist asshat on the marr show and doesn’t register any awareness that there might be something wrong with her and her statements that bothers me.

PutItAwayDear · 14/10/2018 12:12

What book are they discussing? Sounds great already Grin

GraceTheDisgrace · 14/10/2018 12:10

I'm pretty sour faced these days, my clothes are not that great, and I'm on my period a good fifth of the time, and absolutely none of that makes any of what I have to say any less relevant than it otherwise would have been. Wth?

(not watching so I don't know the context.)

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 14/10/2018 12:08

I’m not involved with the book in case that’s how that reads! It’s
More that feminists must be :insert tired woman-hating crap here:

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 14/10/2018 12:07

I don’t normally do this sort of thing... but a quick google suggests I am better dressed than her and Posie Parker is less sour faced. As for periods... if you can write and publish a book in the time it takes you to have a period... ‘‘tis to be applauded!

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