Serious official criticism of Butterfly

This article quotes Transgender Trend and also criticises Suzie Geeen.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6273575/Parents-fury-Anna-Friels-one-sided-transgender-drama-Butterfly.html

I wonder if the drama quotes the grossly inaccurate, 48% figure.

It’s a shame we don’t know, in light of this article, we could bombard ITV with emails/tweets, to ensure it’s taken out before being broadcast.

Clearly didn’t occur to the programme makers or Friel that this was a callous and cruel thing to do. All charities have a tendency to emphasise the negative aspects of a condition to gain funding and attention, but even when it is true the information can be devastating for families.

To ignore the advice of experts and cavalierly quote dodgy information for clearly political reasons is very irresponsible and ITV have some explaining to do.

This is a genuine question, not an attempt to be goady.

There have recently attempts to bring private prosecutions against several gender critical feminists as the people who brought them felt the CPS didn't do enough. Is there any point in doing the same to Susie Green for taking her child abroad for genital surgery after first illegally obtaining drugs? I have no doubt she thought she was doing the right thing, but then I'm sure parents who support fgm think the same. And given the massive influence she currently has and the way she encourages surgery would suggest it is in public interest.

3 families whose children committed suicide and 4 children who attempted it - that's heartbreaking

but yes, very much in line with the rates for children referred to CAMHS. The ludicrous inflated statistics are so damaging. being suicidal is not a common side effect of being trans ffs

and for gods sake, how could you know about those three children and argue for anything that reduced medical involvement for children who believe themselves to have gender dysphoria? Self ID would make it less likely that those children got the help they needed

this is a great article

There’s a daily mail article that’s also critical of The programme.

Ms Green is quoted as saying that mermaids have never stated that trans kids denied hormones are more at risk of self harm.

Surely she’s contradicting herself now?

Oh, and yes to support of Janice Turner!

It is interesting that the article also says that the programme makers visited the Gender Identity Development Service but parted over differences.

So the programme departs from the practice and guidance of GIDS presumably and relies on Green (as Friel indicates).

The problem is - how many people watch this programme versus how many people read The Times?

Why has Susie Green never been prosecuted? I’m really pleased with the article. Any suicide is one too many, but it is simply irresponsible scaremongering to inflate the statistics for a political agenda.

Interesting that a lot of other big name journalists who don't write about trans issues were weighing in on Twitter in support of Janice Turner after that tweet.

It's not 1%, it's about a tenth of that - 0.14%. "Less than 1%" can sometimes mean a lot less than 1%.

Excellent article, but from a factual point of view, it's a shame the writer didn't say more about the nature of the Stonewall survey. "47% of a self-selected sample of 27 transgender young people" would have alerted readers to the flawed nature of their evidence.

Helen Belcher (founder of Trans Media Watch and Lib Dem) has pulled out of f judging a journalism prize because Janice Turner is on the shortlist.

Belcher's statement said "“Since The Times started printing such pieces, starting with one by Turner in September 20177_, I have heard of more trans suicides than at any point since 2012. These have mainly been of trans teenagers. I pointed this out. Despite this, Turner was still shortlisted for Commentator of the Year."

Not not is this an outrageous slur but it's untrue.

Belcher advises government and the media on trans issues

Ursula I'll put that on the list with not wearing my Adult Human Female t-shirt in Liverpool.

Don't let WYP hear you say that.

I still can't believe this is happening. It's actual "fake news", people have swallowed the statistic without question for ages.

The suicide risk isn't 1%, the article says less than 1%, by the stats given it's actually 0.14%.

Thanks for the link. I found that very helpful.

So no they are not a very high risk group, when looked at in the context of all young people with mental health issues. Anything that can be done to reduce that 1% should be done - as the impact on individuals and families can be devastating - but lying and inflating the risk to push an agenda is highly irresponsible at best

Wow, if that's not biased data I don't know what is... A 47% difference between recorded data and survey results (done by a organisation with a vested interest).

I would have thought a 48% rate of suicidal thoughts would be a clear sign that a doctor must be involved in diagnosis so mental health services can be involved?! Self-ID would leave transgender persons without the interventions they need.

Is there any data to show that gender reassignment / "coming out" fixes this worrying percentage?

The fight back continues.