The Times - Mordaunt faces backlash from MPs re Trans reform

Wow! So the tide really is turning.

It will be awful after this if they are still cowed into not speaking out.

James Kirkup was right about what MPs thought and how worried there were about disagreeing with the proposal. It now seems as though there are safety in numbers plus the public is speaking out very clearly.

“She said it was the defining moral and cultural issue of our times”

I think Penny was right about that.

Just not in the way Penny thinks it is.

I'm amazed that 9% back self-declaration without a doctor.

I'm also amazed that the comments in The Times on this issue haven't been left pending for hours, like usual!

No sympathy here, will be seeing that article to a few friends.

"The poll — one of a regular survey of MPs on topical issues by ComRes — found that only 9% of Tories back self-declaration without a doctor, with 69% opposed".

Seems quite clear cut.

Penny saw an opportunity to cast herself as the heroine of the hour without bothering to do simple research on the issue. She saw it as a virtue signalling no-brainer that would lead her into Number 10. The transgender lobby did all the hard work as she saw it and all she had to do was to ride in, rubber stamp it and then take all the credit.

And now that politicians and ordinary people are rightly pointing out the reality and the dangers, she will now move to save her career.

Problem is that, having indulged the TRAs completely thus far, they will now turn on her for deserting them. Watch your back, Penny.

Can't say I feel a whole lot of sympathy.

Needsmorespace

I agree. People just don’t believe it’s happening. The comments are great and lots of men commenting. Sport, guides, changing rooms- it’s all there in the comments.

Maybe...it’s about as morally and culturally important as your toddler throwing a temper tantrum when you’re taking your terminally ill granny to the opera for possibly the last time.

Very encouraging. The bit that jumped out at me was half of MPs have been contacted about the issue. We all must write to our MPs. They might ignore us or disagree with us but at least let them know that you are concerned.

the comments are extremely positive - GB's one particularly.
I am so hopeful that the tide is turning I just hope it is enough before the consultation closes.
I have finally, finally raised the issue at work, subtly at first but then a bit more vocally. At least two women told me on Friday that they now knew what they were doing at the weekend.
The irony is that no-one was offended or 'woke'. They just simply didn't believe me that this could be happening. They just didn't believe me. It is astonishing that this is completely under the radar of the general public.

borntobequiet well she's right, but just not in the way she thinks

“She said it was the defining moral and cultural issue of our times”
Well she’s an idiot.

Worth watching then.

Mordaunt is spending the weekend waiting for May to change her mind over the latest Brexit position, with the threat that she'll quit if May doesn't.

Also contemplating her position over Brexit is Esther McVey, against the backdrop of a looming backlash over Universal Credit.

The third MP thinking about quitting over Brexit is said to be the incredibly talented and politically skilled Andrea Leadsom.

It has to be said, that the trans issue and the universal credit issues are a problem for May and getting rid of Mordaunt and McVey gives an opportunity for u-turns on both - whilst also exposing May politically in other ways.

But yes.

Interesting dynamic emerging over two very important and looming issues which perhaps are every bit as crucial for the next generation as Brexit.

I very much hope that it is how it pans out!

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I am intrigued. Why do they think Mordaunt is going to the be the next leader? I have read that somewhere else too.

Good.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9800cc34-cf02-11e8-bde6-fae32479843d