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So apparently Owl made a film

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AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 09:03

I'm thinking Owl should stick to Owl's day job (is there one?)

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=67&v=mfxnLd8cqac

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CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 23:30

Start* and the end.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 22:33

Or at the star and end, or where ever the new scenes fit.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 14/10/2018 22:00

To be fair this is only a section of a movie, it might make more sense with the missing scenes in the middle.

BrickByBrick · 14/10/2018 20:23

I think Owl may have been getting advice from AIBU. We should be proud of Owl, instead of seething away and posting about their neighbour talking about them, they confronted the neighbour and had it out with them.

Owl, I salute you, you are a shining example for AIBU.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/10/2018 16:03

I really didn't understand the drunken violence in the middle

I'm assuming it's a nod to the whole "transwomen suffer male violence, and you have to give us space in your rape shelters and refuges" trope.

And as the neighbour was so clearly trans, I didn’t understand two trans women arguing about which was a real women

That was what I found so confusing. I got that Owl was representing a transwomen. I don't understand whether the older transwoman was meant to be a transwoman or a woman. And equally I wasn't sure if the transman was meant to be a transman or a man Confused

boatyardblues · 14/10/2018 15:23

DoYouLikeBasghetti Could not leave this thread without a nod to your username. DH and I love What we do in the Shadows - you have reminded me to watch again, as I could certain do with a bloody good laugh right now.

MorbidMuch · 14/10/2018 15:00

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I cannot wait for the full version. That was hilarious! Everyone pretending that they can't tell that they're all trans.

I really didn't understand the drunken violence in the middle.

Loved the cat.

EspressoButler · 14/10/2018 14:52

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LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 14:48

Based soley on videos I don't think Owl looks trans. If I knew nothing about her I would assume she is a woman.

The same applies to Kristina Harrison, although obviously Kristina Harrison and Owl have nothing in common other than being trans.

timetodothis · 14/10/2018 14:34

Were they both trans women arguing?

Yes. They are both Trans women.
There are obvious male features on both of them. Prominent brows, shape of the chin, etc.

It's amazing how the human brain can tell straight away whether a person is male or female.

DoYouLikeBasghetti · 14/10/2018 14:31

Lol

BettyDuMonde · 14/10/2018 14:23

Owl is a better at acting than Owl is at writing.

HamiltonCork · 14/10/2018 14:14

Can't wait for the full version. I love watching stuff that's so shite it's good.

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/10/2018 14:04

Hmm. Their "This is what Non-Binary Looks Like" video.

"Gender identity and gender expression are two different things. The fact that I present as feminine/masculine does not make us any less non-binary. It's just clothes. It's just presentation. It's just a form of expression."

Just a form of expression. Really? Looks to me like a bit of a power play. You'r born a sex, take steps to look like the opposite sex, insist people call you neither. As a way to keep everyone around you walking on eggshells, policing their own language. Power play. I'm sure it makes Fox and Owl feel very much in charge.

Ereshkigal · 14/10/2018 09:34

Just realised it's the short only and the feature length (9 minutes) is coming later and will be released at film festivals. Hope there's lots of footage of that cat.

Can't wait!

Ereshkigal · 14/10/2018 09:32

Looking back, I properly cringe when I think how naff it was, and how glad I was that he never replied or mentioned these "slips" of my texting fingers.

Haha I did this too Grin

TheGoddessFrigg · 14/10/2018 09:17

Owl’s film sounds like the Home Bargain version of The Lives of Others

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DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 14/10/2018 09:11

I think Owl may have bought out Poundland's entire stock of glue before making this film.

KeiTeNgeNge · 14/10/2018 03:25

That wall and fence are probably made by the same people who make those L shaped sheets for movie sex scenes Grin

Datun · 14/10/2018 01:26

Ooh CottonTailRabbit your narrative was far more interesting. I was actually quite hooked.

leeloo1 · 14/10/2018 01:23

Where do they live that they have a wall that's about 20ft high, (how tall is Penny's ladder to peer over it? Could they not put a window in for her, to make it easier?) but the fence is so low that Penny can easily lean over it to pull the sheets back?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 14/10/2018 01:08

Just realised it's the short only and the feature length (9 minutes) is coming later and will be released at film festivals. Hope there's lots of footage of that cat.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 14/10/2018 00:51

The film was hilarious, but the comments on here were even better. I'm going to need incontinence pads for my computer chair if you lot keep this up.

PersonaNonGarter · 14/10/2018 00:12

I mean, if that’s the quality of the final cut, what do you think they left out? The Royston Vasey bake sale scene?

CottonTailRabbit · 14/10/2018 00:10

Was this an Owl fantasy? You know one where Owl passes so well as a woman that even her older female t*rf neighbour doesn't realise Owl was a man, despite spying on Owl over the wall and fence all the time. Owl doesn't mind the stalking and lets neighbour catsit. Obviously needs to spend more time on AIBU does Owl.

Anyway, in Owl's fantasy, neighbour is astonished to discover Owl is not XX when confronted by Owl about transphobia. Of course there is no chance of the trans topic coming up in conversation to enable this super-validating exchange because Owl totally passes so plot device needed.

Owl has trans friends round for a picnic, they don't pass like Owl does, Owl transes better than them you see. Stalker neighbour peers over the wall as always and sees the trans people who aren't as good at trans as Owl. Later the neighbour has a little moan on the phone about how trans people never pass. She has this phone call while outside in the garden right by the fence but doesn't see Owl because of the washing. Don't we all hang our sheets up to dry on the washing line right along the boundary fence with our neighbours? Owl confronts and is validated.

Owl reflects on how she is definitely a real woman because a transman once got drunk and pushed her over, in the style you sometimes see in anti-DV videos. Transman is validated too. He is so big and strong he can push Owl to the ground and scare Owl. He looks big by being right by the camera and Owl looks smaller on the ground far away. Owl has seen Father Ted and the talk about the cows you see.

TLDR: Adrian Mole made a video.

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