DH showed his true colours today

Too many women assume they have zero influence over their son, and that is simply not true, it's merely a justification for them to not make the effort.

THOSE women can kiss my

Many women have commented on mn how they have consistently directed their son's attention to misogyny just by pointing out examples (on the news, other people on the street, etc so that your son doesn't feel directly attacked, singled out and get defensive. Persistently mentioning the topic over time really does help their boys become better, is what they've said. I've been super impressed with the women who make this effort!

This reminded me of a recent Trevor Noah clip. They showed Republic women speaking about Kavanaugh and one said something like "show me the boy who never did that at school, never touched a girl" and Trevor was slowly raising his hand, me...?

No, but they're making divorce much easier

Good news then. From your reports, I wouldn't put any bets on your marriage lasting far into the future. Sooner rather than later eh? - gives you each a better chance of meeting someone new.

How do you disable it placemats?

Most here have disabled it. I have.

Then it won’t affect you.

Most here have disabled it. I have.

Saying 'You were a sexist dick head and it really pissed me off' ought to cover it.

Ask I’m if he’s feeling ok as he’s been an arsehole all day and you have no idea why. Tell him he’s ruined the day by his rude thoughtless misogynistic behaviour ask if him if he’s maybe got a hormonal imbalance as this happens a lot and maybe he should see someone about it.

It fucks me right off when men tell women to ‘calm down’ or if they’re ‘in your period’ no I have a right to be affronted by your toxic behaviour.

I've also come to the conclusion that sharing our personal experience and the drip, drip, drip approach is more effective. If I rant, and it's hard not to because I feel like ranting most of the time, it's counter-productive. DH closes off and gets defensive - not me, not all men, blah blah.

But the time I just casually mentioned groping/flashing incidents which had happened to me on public transport decades ago really brought him up short. Even though it was a long time ago, it was suddenly real to him. I could see it dawning on him.

@ are the done thing. I like an @. If you don't, just disable the function surely?

Oh an no @ on here. It's not the done thing.

It absolutely is because that’s what the function was created for.

I’m sorry - completely feel your pain

This is the one I’ve shown to DS - Guante

Just to say OP, I absolutely didn't mean "turn a blind eye" when I said I don't think men can really get it. Sorry if that's what came across?

I just meant that showing him articles online probably wouldn't be as effective as talking to him.

I also think that it's really normal for even "nice caring 50/50 parenting" men to not really "get it" deep down.

I expect all we can ever do is keep talking and keep trying to share our experiences.

I have a teenage boy and while him and his friends out of school can be annoying and loud there is nothing disrespectful to other people and they know how to conduct themselves in public.

I don’t normally do the “but what about the menz” but from what I see and hear girls can be just as disrespectful in public as boys can. However I agree that some boys have learnt bad behaviour.

Oh an no @ on here. It's not the done thing.

If my partner ever said boys will be boys and is doing 50% childcare I'd be worried. He needs lecture and he needs one now.

Ask him if he's going through an early male menopause because the only men who thinks like he does are either elderly or going through a hormonal crisis. He's obviously not a teenager. He's obviously not elderly. Male menopause.

If a teenage girl were to do something similar within sight or earshot of an adult, nobody would be saying girls will be girls.

#DearDaddy does it for me and is my pinned tweet.

So...:

• You had an opinion (if DS did...)
• He had an opinion (boys will be boys)
• You belittled him (we'll carry on just...)
• He belittled you (period..)
• You 'told him off' (harsh words)
• He blamed you (huffing)
• You threatened another telling off (need to talk about it)
• He blamed you again (poor form)

Honestly, you're as bad as each other.

No one is perfectly nice/calm/woke-enough/banterish-enough/funny-enough/chilled/whatever ALL of the time. You both just need to break the cycle of being a dick back and forth to each other if someone happens to fuck up.
It doesn't matter who, though be nice if you both try on the odd occasion necessary.

@serenawren Sorry, my comment wasn't addressed to you but to some others on the thread.
Agree with the drip drip approach though.