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Karen White case on Jeremy Vine at 1pm today

154 replies

DisappearingFish · 12/10/2018 12:03

I can't listen as I'll be working but heads up if anyone else can.

Richard Garside will be on.

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LastOneDancing · 12/10/2018 13:19

It's making me angry too destiny

Say it. Say the actual words 'her penis'.

ExtremistParanoidBigot · 12/10/2018 13:18

There will be quite of lot of Vine's audience who are rather perplexed by how this is being reported.
My lovely NDN is in her 80s and was telling me that the consultation was (unofficially) discussed at her W.I meeting last week. Most of the members had no clue about any of it until the discussion.

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 13:18

Is the penny starting to drop for Jeremy? He's just asked how 'this person' could have ended up in a women's prison........

pancaketosser · 12/10/2018 13:17

I think calling White 'she' is the only way of highlighting that this is the world we live in now. Karen is a woman because Karen says so. No matter what.

We all know what they're talking about, Karen's male name has been mentioned, we all know.

Great caller BTW, the facts speak for themselves.

Destinysdaughter · 12/10/2018 13:17

Even Jeremy is stumbling over the pronouns now!

Destinysdaughter · 12/10/2018 13:16

In 1989 ‘she exposed herself’. This MAN exposed HIS penis.

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 13:13

'I can’t bear that they are calling this RAPIST ‘she’ angry'

Me neither Destiny Angry Based on what??? That person is clearly a man, and has a penis, and we know this because he used it to RAPE more than one woman. It's gaslighting and total bullshit to suggest that this person is a woman based on wigs and make up and his own say so

Destinysdaughter · 12/10/2018 13:12

Oh wow, they threatened to report residents to the police for hate crimes for misgendering them??

bitheby · 12/10/2018 13:11

On radio 2 now.

Destinysdaughter · 12/10/2018 13:10

I can’t bear that they are calling this RAPIST ‘she’ Angry

Destinysdaughter · 12/10/2018 13:05

The journalist on the C5 show today mentioned ‘alleged rapes’. However he’s been convicted of them so they are not allegations, they’re fucking crimes!

VickyEadie · 12/10/2018 12:54

C5 - didn't know Jeremy Vine had a show on there - thought this was his R2 show.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/10/2018 12:53

Oh ok thought it was Radio - that producer is just radio.

Has this already been on TV then? Will catch up.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/10/2018 12:51

Yes.
It was channel 5 though, not BBC.

VickyEadie · 12/10/2018 12:47

I do think we need to complain to the BBC about Vine not challenging the 'alleged rapist' comment. That's real distortion of facts.

LizzieSiddal · 12/10/2018 12:47

I do wonder if producers/news paper editors are worried about getting sued, if they use the wrong pronouns?

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 12/10/2018 12:42

I don't know - correcting people serves to highlight the madness and will probably make a few people think...

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 12:32

'He kept correcting a woman for calling Karen White he. '

What a fucking idiot. Yes Jeremy, coz that's the really important issue here. Good to get your priorities straight Hmm

UpstartCrow · 12/10/2018 12:30

Can people post links?

ExtremistParanoidBigot · 12/10/2018 12:30

I don't imagine for one second, after that disgraceful piece on Newsnight and previous form on this at the BBC, that this will be presented in an unbiased way.
More than happy to be proved wrong. Will listen.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/10/2018 12:28

No, it's Ryan Wilson.

It was hypocritical as two weeks earlier he'd Tweeted that " I'm in a communal changing room and the guy next to me was just brushing his teeth in the SHOWER.

"I can't overstate how much I am not OK with this."

Redkeyboard · 12/10/2018 12:23

Was it Tim Johns, Hands? If so looks like he has deleted the tweets.

Redkeyboard · 12/10/2018 12:13

Heads up. I had a twitter spat with a producer on this show a couple of weeks ago about Posie and her fab original poster.

He was so woke so offended by women speaking out and is vocal on social media that I'm expecting him to be in cahoots with the Newsnight bods.

Oh dear.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 12/10/2018 12:12

His first panel member described White as an 'alleged rapist'. I despair. That's what Vine should have corrected, not someone getting the sex of a violent man right.

TerfedOff · 12/10/2018 12:10

Jeremy Vine was a mess on his show this morning. He kept correcting a woman for calling Karen White he.

We are now having our language and our thoughts censored and it would appear that this is with the full agreement of all the mainstream Media.

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