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My MP thinks self ID is ridiculous

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MyMPfinallyreplied · 10/10/2018 22:23

So I finally got a reply from my MP - I'd actually given up hope. He's Conservative, very right wing, and I disagree with a lot of his voting record. However, I wrote in the vain hope that he would actually get it. He's not on twitter and replies with actual letters so takes a while to get hold of.

I never expected him to quote the Pope in his reply (he's C of E). I haven't been able to post that part as he uses my name close by, but it made me smile.

This all makes for strange bedfellows.

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GatheringHerBrows · 11/10/2018 20:11

Bloody hell saratustra, it's going to take you ages to go around commenting on all the threads on MN that you're not interested in 😂. You'd better get on then.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 11/10/2018 20:09

I why did you click on this thread... It's pretty clear what it is.

saratustra · 11/10/2018 20:04

Bloody hell, left mumsnet for a month and still this crap!!

EmilieDuChatelet · 11/10/2018 20:02

Apols - wrong MP thread!!

EmilieDuChatelet · 11/10/2018 19:53

I rang the constituency office for a more direct approach Grin. Ensured that message about the WPUK meeting was relayed and also booked an appointment for another discussion about the GRA and self-identification, as I last met MP much earlier in the year.

RepealtheGRA · 11/10/2018 19:39

Room S 10.30-12.30.

AdaColeman · 11/10/2018 19:13

I'm drafting a letter to my MP just now, and want to ask them if they are going to the meeting on 16th. But I can't find any more details about where it is etc. Could some one kindly point me in the right direction for more information please?

(Hope I've not derailed your thread OP)

Turph · 11/10/2018 19:13

Redkeyboard
Yes I'm thinking about how to reply...

Redkeyboard · 11/10/2018 19:10

That’s so frustrating turph as the issues on the ground regarding the exemptions are exactly the kind of information that meeting would properly inform your MP about.

Worth sending them the FPFW refuges report which summarises why they aren’t working and why GRA reform would make this worse. You can ask him to forward it to Penny Mordaunt for her response as to how the issues will be addressed.

YeTalkShiteHen · 11/10/2018 19:09

I’m stunned, for the first time in my life I’ve actually agreed with something a Tory said.

Ooft. Never thought that would happen.

Imnobody4 · 11/10/2018 19:07

Turf
Exactly the same phrasing in response from my MP. Love the line ' Everyone should feel safe and happy to be who they are without judgement or fear.' How can anyone bear to repeat such platitudes?

rightreckoner · 11/10/2018 19:03

My Tory male MP said he couldn’t comment as he is also a junior minister in an unrelated dept. Fine, I said but Penny Mordaunt won’t speak to us and you can’t speak to us so what do we do?

Answer came there none.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 11/10/2018 19:03

OP could you copy and paste the letter you sent here? You clearly did a good job and we could all use it as a template for our own MPs.

Turph · 11/10/2018 19:00

16th!

2BorNot2Bvocal · 11/10/2018 18:56

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Turph · 11/10/2018 18:55

Mine was asked to attend the session on the 26th. Looks like a no to me.

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WokerThanWoke · 11/10/2018 18:55

Thanks Manderley I'll have a look through the episodes.

Winterlight · 11/10/2018 18:54

‘In Ireland the priesthood is exempt from self Id. I heard it on the guilty feminist’.

Can trans women become nuns?

Manderleyagain · 11/10/2018 18:48

Wokerthanwoke not sure. Not the last few weeks. It was an Irish woman that said but not a v famous one here like aisling bea as I don't know who she is. Maybe an episode from Dublin? Yes surprising but it didn't sit weirdly in the show at the time.

AncientLights · 11/10/2018 18:44

My Conservative MP is also anti the GRA amendments too (north of England). This all feels so very odd.

WokerThanWoke · 11/10/2018 18:43

Manderley Which episode was this from?

In Ireland the priesthood is exempt from self Id. I heard it on the guilty feminist.

I'm just surprised that self-ID got a mention beyond this is such a brilliant idea, we should all support our sisters, not just our cisters type thing.

wingwarbler · 11/10/2018 18:35

Great stuff :)

Sad to see though that we can have support from very right wing Tories, but who are the same people perhaps who have allowed hidden cuts in Universal Credit to severely reduce incomes for disabled people (up to £150 a month ish).

This hidden cut was ruled unlawful and discriminatory in June 18, to which the Gov said no other disabled people who receive Severe Disability Benefit would have to move to UC until transitional protection has come in, BUT since then NOTHING has been done, and disabled people are still having to apply for UC and lose money.

Definitely a case of choosing between the lesser of two evils these days :(

but I will be slightly cheered if biological women can remain in a class of our own.

SlantyBaws · 11/10/2018 13:47

I emailed my MP (SNP) on the matter a couple of days ago. Got a pretty prompt response, spouting the usual guff about being empathetic and allowing marginalised voices to be heard.

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MyMPfinallyreplied · 11/10/2018 13:39

That is my worry as well newt - I'm not sure I've ever agreed with my MP before and I feel quite uneasy that I do now. I very much doubt that he opposes the changes from the women's rights perspective.

Invisible This MP also has massive majority - definitely not a swing seat - and this would not be an issue that would lose him votes anyway! It's such a safe seat that nobody bothers campaigning in local or national elections, just a given that he'll get in again.

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R0wantrees · 11/10/2018 13:32

worth sending a copy of Kathellen Stock's speech made at The House of Lords yesterday to any MP.

The points made are key ones for legislators, politicians and policy makers:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3391330-Prof-Kathleen-Stock-WPUK-speech-at-House-of-Lords-Important-disection-of-the-key-issues-for-MPs-policy-makers-etc-with-ref-to-The-Trans-Equality-Report

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