Implications of the Irish gay cake ruling

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MIdgebabe · 10/10/2018 18:08

Specifically No one is required to manifest a belief that they do not hold

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GreyGardens88 · 10/10/2018 19:02

It IS discriminatory, what if they refused to bake a cake for an interracial couple ? No difference at all

DonDrapersOldFashioned · 10/10/2018 19:02

Irish gay cake

donquixotedelamancha · 10/10/2018 19:00

Exactly what CrabbityRabbit said. I deeply disagree with the cake maker's views, but their right to hold those views protects us all.

InfidelForever · 10/10/2018 18:39

I think this is a great result, it stops compelled speech. I can think of a few compelled speech phrases I would like to have stopped as they conflict with my views......

VickyEadie · 10/10/2018 18:25

f I made cakes I would like the freedom to reject designs that are racist, pro Tory, anti-choice etc. I wouldn't expect an ethically vegan cakemaker to make a design that was pro meat slaughter. Etc etc etc.

Indeed. I agree.

CrabbityRabbit · 10/10/2018 18:22

Although my instinct is to side with the gay couple, I think this is a good ruling.

An analogous situation would be a Christian asking a bakery run by LGB people to bake a cake against equal marriage quoting Leviticus. The claim would then be discrimination against religious characteristic if they were refused.

Its not the people that were refused service for their characteristic. They could have had a different product. The owners cannot be compelled to create something which gives a message they disagree with. It would be different if they refused to serve a gay couple a cake they have already designed like a generic wedding cake.

If I made cakes I would like the freedom to reject designs that are racist, pro Tory, anti-choice etc. I wouldn't expect an ethically vegan cakemaker to make a design that was pro meat slaughter. Etc etc etc.

VickyEadie · 10/10/2018 18:09

I could just eat a bit of gay cake...

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