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BBC Woman’s hour

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heather1 · 10/10/2018 12:06

This mornings Womens house had a piece called Plastic Free periods. The trans lobby influces again as at around 17:21 the speaker refers to 'women and Menstruaters' . Not even sure that is a word to be honest.
It’s just insidious.
Hope my link works www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/m0000nf0

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TerfedOff · 10/10/2018 14:58

Can i take it we are going to see a huge TRA campaign to get sanitary bins in male loos now?

Welshmaiden85 · 10/10/2018 14:56

I noticed that too. It was slightly said under her breath

jellyfrizz · 10/10/2018 14:55

Women, bats, elephant shrews and chimpanzees.

heather1 · 10/10/2018 14:51

Yes it really is dehumanising. Sorry to post and run, but it was just such a odd way to speak.

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Elephantinacravat · 10/10/2018 14:31

Urgh, 'mensturators' just sounds so dehumanising.

AspieAndProud · 10/10/2018 14:26

The trans lobby influces again as at around 17:21 the speaker refers to 'women and Menstruaters'

They do tampons for bats and elephant shrews now?

pennydrew · 10/10/2018 14:20

Everyone is non binary 🙄 only women and girls menstruate. Describing us by bodily functions is gross.

beenandgoneandbackagain · 10/10/2018 14:01

jellyslice I was referring to those males who keep their penises whilst claiming nouns belonging to others Wink

DakiniTawa · 10/10/2018 13:43

People that menstruate (aside from women) include trans men, non binary people, young girls, teenagers and some intersex people.

'Women' does not fit the description of all these people, while 'menstruators' covers the lot.

pennydrew · 10/10/2018 13:12

How do we know this is what transmen want? Was there a poll? What if some of them don’t like it? Why can’t they say transmen instead of the dehumanising term, menstruators? On an individual level, when giving care, fine. But normalising language that many women find insulting, is not right.

How about female?

JellySlice · 10/10/2018 12:48

Well, it will be fair if they say "men and ejaculators" when referring to men's specific health issues.

Emasculated men cannot ejaculate.

holidaylady · 10/10/2018 12:46

If it was the thinx company then yes they don't talk about women at all. On purpose. Only menstuators. Unreal.

DubaiismyBlackpool · 10/10/2018 12:44

A quick google search says that it does happen, but it's not as a person with a uterus menstruates. It's the result of a parasitic infection.

Hardly the same as surfing the crimson wave really.

DakiniTawa · 10/10/2018 12:43

I have zero problem calling a trans man born with a uterus a menstuator if that is what he wants.

He can be a chestfeeder too rather than a breastfeeder if that makes him feel better.

I would not be happy to see this terminology extended to all women, but I can't see this happening here.

WatchThePotatoesBoil · 10/10/2018 12:36

DakiniTawa

The majority of the population consider the words Woman and Man to be sexed, not gendered terms.

DubaiismyBlackpool · 10/10/2018 12:35

Some men menstruate?
Really??
I thought the person needed a uterus to menstruate?

DakiniTawa · 10/10/2018 12:33

Got no issue with this. Some trans men menstruate.

If they'd left the word 'woman' out altogether that would be a different matter but 'women and menstruators' is factual and accurate.

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 10/10/2018 12:23

Blimey. Going to listen now

beenandgoneandbackagain · 10/10/2018 12:22

Well, it will be fair if they say "men and ejaculators" when referring to men's specific health issues.

pennydrew · 10/10/2018 12:19

Wtf? Well I think we need to make complaints. That is dehumanising.

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