Where is the MN safe space?

Either infiltrated or someone falls out with someone else and decides to screenshot and share posts/members etc.

Even secret groups on Facebook get infiltrated...safest to assume that nowhere online is actually private.

One of the tenets of cybersecurity currently is that nothing is technically secure barring encrypted connections (and then, it depends on the encryption) but there are solutions.

Anything involving people in groups? Pretty much implausible it can be secure. WhatsApp or Signal are technically pretty secure and use good encryption but look at those BBC Women's WhatsApp groups where the Young and the Woke leaked confidential exchanges because they appointed themselves (un)Woke Finder General.

In person has all of the problems PPs outline.

And, just to agree with PPs that FWR has high visibility as these things go and it's vital to keep it because where else can women discuss these things in a mainstream space?

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At times the modding has been so random that i think it would be impossible to say what would get you deleted

On FWR sarcasm and 'funny' remarks are deleted at times

Part of this is because MN is a self reporting forum and because someone thought it would be a good idea if members of the forum could be reported by non members

Part of it is because FWR is held up to an impossibly high standard

That post about the discount is a coded message about our conference at Leeds University.

Shhh! Don’t tell them! They think it’s the Rabbit Fanciers AGM

It’s the Stationery Cupboard

The Leaders felt that a board so easily misspelled would be just as easily misdirected.

See those pens? They’re not actual, real pens. They’re literally pens and, being fairly blank to start with, they can identify as and how we/they wish. Lilly the Pink and that.
Pencil sharpeners are meetings: double for combined ones.
Rubbers are the Self ID consultation

I'd value a private group. Feel I can't be out on Facebook due to work connections. And feel somewhat constrained even anonymously on here by my job.

I'd desperately love to go to one of the meetings but difficult with work hours and kids.

But I am only recently delurked, so like previous posters have said, it wouldn't be sensible to trust me

Not sure what the answer is, other than some sort of agreement to verify real life identities with the very longstanding regulars. But not sure that's really workable!

I'd like to be involved in a group but it's more important that people take precautions that I'm not a troll. For example, I'm not on Twitter, have only posted one thing related to gc on Facebook, done leafleting and posted on here. If I was checking up on me, iyswim, I wouldn't be sure!

same!

Also, I'd like a place where I can post my comment, and somebody could tell me if it's likely to get me banned fromMN. Because I've written quite a few pointed comments and didn't post because... well gosh how many ways are there to not insult the precious, to not "make sweeping generalizations" and still do some actual class analysis. How is it even possible to analyze class WITHOUT "making sweeping generalizations"???

I would be willing to skype with someone, if they needed to verify my ladybrains.

Whilst back channels for communications are great we really should endeavour to post as much as possible on here so that lurkers/newbies are welcomed into the fold of the "peak-transed".

Let's not go there.

There's a reason they're there, and an important one, connected to many of the reasons why we're shouting loud here for female spaces for dignity, privacy and safety. And they're not really 'strange' places, just a community of support away from the noise.

In reality, a MN safe space will never really exist. It's a public space.

And, to be honest, there will be no female 'safe' spaces, until the males who insist on being in female spaces stop insisting and acknowledge that females need single-spaces sometimes, whether just to talk, to disrobe, or whatever they need. (Funny how the Vice article posted elsewhere demands that trans spaces should be exclusive - whilst female spaces seem to be 'wrong' somehow)

The trouble with the one or two more obscure spaces which might exist on MN is that by definition if troublemakers can't find them, neither can anyone else.

Stationary cupboard - the erasers were the giveaway.

Room of requirement - lost with that one too, unless it is where the ladies on the EA thread used to go. That saw me through some stressful times.

I am lost .. Room of requirement???

There is always the Stationery Cupboard

I'd forgotten about the room of requirement! I just popped over

they're all a bit strange there....

I'd like to be involved in a group but it's more important that people take precautions that I'm not a troll. For example, I'm not on Twitter, have only posted one thing related to gc on Facebook, done leafleting and posted on here. If I was checking up on me, iyswim, I wouldn't be sure!

Please be cautious about any information you offer. We are being bombarded at the moment, and it only takes one infiltrator to cause a lot of trouble.

@twofalls you can PM me. I've wondered about this too.

What Spartacus said - it is really easy for trolls to build up fake profiles and gain trust. Be aware. Be very aware.

Yeah I’m pretty disheartened after the NAS thread and an obvious troll not removed. We need an alternative that is FOR WOMEN

‘The room of requirement’

I would adore one of those. I suspect mine would mostly be a place for me to have a quick snooze. :)

There is the board that I like to call ‘The room of requirement’ on here 😉 It’s on a remote and seldom used pathway.
Or there is the private forum used by many current and ex MNers.