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Illuminating Twitter thread about the origins of the Gender Recognition Act

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Destinysdaughter · 08/10/2018 22:59

This is a very long thread from Twitter about the origins of the GRA 2004, including quotes from Hansard, showing the debates at the time. Illuminating and shocking!

“Tweets from 2003: The Gender Recognition Bill

I'm going to tweet out a few of the illuminating comments from the debates that led to the GRA 2004, to save you all ploughing through Hansard.
One of the primary motivations (if not the foremost) for the bill was to avoid legalising same sex marriage. This featured VERY heavily in the discussions.
#GRA2004

It was, in the Govt's eyes, FAR preferable to convert a same sex couple into a heterosexual couple via 'sex change' than it was to make same sex marriage legal”

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Destinysdaughter · 09/10/2018 06:51

I feel so angry about this, look at the bloody mess they’ve achieved and all the problems it’s creating for women. And then they went ahead with gay marriage anyway! Angry

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howard97A · 09/10/2018 02:27

A couple here by Lynne Jones (Chair of the Parliamentary Forum on Transsexualism) in 2004:

“Quite frankly, the idea that a male-to-female trans-person would be granted a recognition certificate if they did not undergo a penectomy is unthinkable.”

and

“To be candid, if the hon. Gentleman is suggesting that someone who sports a full beard would have their application for a gender recognition certificate granted, I wonder what world he is living in.”

api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/2004/may/25/olympic-athletes

theOtherPamAyres · 09/10/2018 00:51

How interesting to see that Lord (Norman) Tebbit, Conservative Peer, was spot on in recognising the absurdities and risks involved.

PurdysChocolate · 08/10/2018 23:23

Wow. The potential problems were pointed out and they did it anyway. Legal fiction indeed.

Melamin · 08/10/2018 23:19

Ultimately, we seem to have the same motivations for introducing the GRA in this country as Iran has for transing gay men.

KatVonGulag · 08/10/2018 23:17

The comments from the original debate on sport are particularly scary. It all came to pass... even though "that would never happen"

Looks like the fightback in Oz against this nonsense is picking up pace.

www.facebook.com/388525541220058/posts/2394991477240111/

Melamin · 08/10/2018 23:15

All the circumventions of same sex marriage and the fudges to avoid it seem to have caused long term problems.

KatVonGulag · 08/10/2018 23:12

Illuminating research that thread is

AngryAttackKittens · 08/10/2018 23:08

Why should women and girls suffer now and going forward because politicians in 2003 were homophobic?

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Destinysdaughter · 08/10/2018 23:00

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