The aftermath of the intern data leak?

Oh, I don’t know about that, Bernard. I’ve got a feeling I know exactly what the answer is.

sorry, i've just realised that sounds as if I'm demanding a reply from you DereksSexyPyjamas. While it would be lovely to hear from you, I don't think you can give me the definitive answer on whether access to PMs is logged!

I've reported your post DereksSexyPyjamas

it would be great to get the courtesy of a reply

This thread should be in Site Stuff. It's not just FWR frequenters who are at risk if MN data is abused - Relationships, Fostering, Adoption, Health, SEN... all cover sensitive issues and users PM each other things that are not for wider consumption

@MNHQ

It’s now been 10 days since I requested whether attempts to access PMs by mods were logged in any way. Can we get an answer on this please?

Doesn’t part of GDPR relate to companies being transparent about how data is used and processed? Why is it taking so long to get an answer?

@MNHQ Any response?

Bump

@MNHQ, have you had an opportunity to consider the further questions on this thread?

Thanks

So someone sends me an abusive pm.

I report it but in the meantime before a mod can look at it they delete it

And there’s then no evidence at all
Unless I’ve screenshotted it.

That doesn’t sound right. I can’t have understood that right.

Where's thebewilderness? She ought to have a wise observation on this?

Booted.

Her wise observations are denied here.

@MNHQ You say that police were 'made aware'. What does this mean?

Because it suggests, to me, that you didn't make a formal complaint. I would be grateful for some clarification on this.

TIA

Ah, maybe clownfish. But NAYAWLT (not all yorkshire women are like that). Apart from being strong and apparently aggressive some of us have our own actual purse strings and brains. Fancy that!

Where's thebewilderness? She ought to have a wise observation on this?

Leeds Leeds Leeds

Why are MN taking to so long to respond properly to these questions? It's not as though they need to go off and make enquiries, they already have the answers, it's the past we're asking about, not the future.

Place marking.
I left post EmmaGate due to " an incident" which I won't discuss, but not PBP or anything
Then I re joined some time later.

So weird that nothing happened with her at all.
Did she get a good reference from MN then, for CAMRA and elsewhere ?
And if so, why?

Agree with lang. I deleted all my pms after Emma-gate and don't use the pm feature anymore. Ah, yet another way women are prevented from talking to each other, there are so many......

On the relationships board, and occasionally fwr, women who are being abused get support. Given the vulnerability of these women (and their children) and the lengths abusers will go to to gain access to their victims, I think logging access would be a sensible precaution, and presumably not that difficult to do....

All I can take from this, I'm afraid, Kate is to advise other MNers never to say anything in a PM that they don't want Emma2 to plaster all over Twitter - in particular, nothing that could identify them to abusive doxxers.

It's very worrying that you have had a data leak by an employee, taken no action against that employee despite that employee publicly stating MN continues to employ people who agree with her actions, and yet you are taking no action to ensure that such people are not able to access our PMs with malign intent.

No, I wouldn’t say it ‘s a particularly high level of monitoring to log access attempts. I worked in a mobile phone call centre and any attempt to access customer data was recorded

I would regard that as a pretty standard precaution

She went to Leeds Uni too if my memory serves me correctly, didn't she? They do a good job of them there.

"Do you track which of you has looked at PMs and why?"

Highly unlikely. That's a police level of DB monitoring.

There is always a chance of insider infiltration in any organisation. Until the TRA thing came about, I don't suppose there was any requirement to risk assess staff for it. There is now, obv and restrict access to staff who have been through a more robust screening.

What level within Mumsnet does somebody have to be to have mod clearance to access our PM's @KateMumsnet?

I would also be interested in whether your systems maintain a log of which mod has accessed a user's account and who has access to that data?

Staff with mod clearance are able to look at PMs, and they very occasionally do so if they believe that it's necessary in order to protect other users.

And what procedures do you have in place to ensure that they aren't looked at for nefarious reasons by people like Emma?

Do you track which of you has looked at PMs and why?

Great minds, Bernard.

Competition winners are also asked to send their address details via PM.