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Third of girls harassed in school uniform

71 replies

noeffingidea · 08/10/2018 07:21

This is fucking shocking. What is our society doing to girls and young women?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-45777787

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 08/10/2018 13:19

Just wanted to clear up the school uniform thing.

The report is not saying school uniforms are to blame >> it is flagging school uniform stats as then they are obviously a schoolgirl.

MORE girls have experienced harassment out of school uniform > it increases from 1/3 to 2/3 of children.

66% of girls in the UK said they had experienced unwanted sexual attention or sexual or physical contact in a public place
35% of girls reported receiving unwanted sexual contact such as being touched, groped or grabbed
Girls as young as eight years old described witnessing or experiencing harassment
More than one in three girls received unwanted sexual attention such as being groped, stared at, catcalled and wolf-whistled while wearing school uniform
One-quarter of girls said they had been filmed or photographed by a stranger without permission

BertrandRussell · 08/10/2018 13:14

I thought the reports said two thirds-not a third.....

CaramelAngel · 08/10/2018 13:10

The skirt the HT bought them in the DM link looks like something worn by US fundamentalist Christians who wear modest clothing Confused

Earlywalker · 08/10/2018 13:06

I’m surprised it’s that low, I used to get it in my uniform a lot, I was followed and on one occasion grabbed by a stranger.

I remember walking my sister in her uniform I was around 20, she was about 14 and a man of about 45 asked for her number. Safe to say he got a mouthful about his attitude, I think it was the repressed feelings I had about it all coming out. At the time, although scared I weirdly didn’t see it as an issue.

It is not trousers, it is the attitude that women are objects to be claimed. Vile, but if you called the police on something like this - realistically what would happen?

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2018 13:00

You can't keep them safe wearing trousers. Don't you get it...

Sarahjconnor · 08/10/2018 12:56

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placemats · 08/10/2018 12:56

It is thousands of men doing this. Every day. To girls in uniform going to school to get an education.

It's outrageous.

It's also sad that thousands of women are going to bed each night with perverted men.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2018 12:55

I can't believe that coach driver ...he shouldn't be any where near children. I hope he's sacked

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 08/10/2018 12:54

The predictable "but the skirts are sooo short" harasser-apologist comments trickling through.
Last comment was along lines of time to hold men who do this accountable,

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2018 12:53
Angry

It's not the fucking skirts

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 08/10/2018 12:48

Agree Giles, the second guest did eventually say "guys" but only toward the end Confused

Sarahjconnor · 08/10/2018 12:47

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Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2018 12:47

I don't usually listen to Jeremy vine so I can't tell. Is his tone usually so "unsure" he doesn't appear to sound convinced really.

Was cross at the repeated use of the word gender. Needed stronger mention of the fact it's men. It was presented in a way that exonerates most men and even cast doubt it was men at all. There are hundreds of schools and thousands upon thousands of school girls it's not a small handful of men doing it all is it.

placemats · 08/10/2018 12:45

I mean anyone in uniform is blatantly 16 or under. Many have different colour ties or shirts for different years so it wouldn't be hard to work out the age bracket of the girls

This completely proves that even when wearing the exact uniform, no make up, trousers or skirts, it still happens.

Giles absolutely nails it.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 08/10/2018 12:34

Have R2 on now will be interesting if anyone has the fuck&£g gall to even attempt to justify this

0ccamsRazor · 08/10/2018 12:28

Yy to the uniform, school uniform = child

Couldn't be any clearer could it?

Entitled fucking cunts.

0ccamsRazor · 08/10/2018 12:25

Betty I think that I may have just fallen in love a little bit with your dh.

Fucking men, leave our girls alone.

My dd is 15, super curvy, tall and slim, from the age of 10 men would stare at her. They still do, but she spends her life in her bubble and ignores the fucking paedos. Have pressed upon her to carry a small can of deodorant or hair spray (as pepper spray is not legal in the UK) just in case, also a small crystal ball in a sock (home made monkey paw) as not long ago she was watching true crimes videos and freaked out at the amount of sexual abuse that is metted out to women and girls. She asked me to get a gps tracker for her to wear! She was really distressed. We agreed to find the track my phone function on her phone.

I am so sick of the violence towards females.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2018 12:24

I wonder where all the posters on Mumsnet who believe that 13/14 year old girls look like 18 years are now?

Ha yeah.

I mean anyone in uniform is blatantly 16 or under. Many have different colour ties or shirts for different years so it wouldn't be hard to work out the age bracket of the girls

This completely proves that even when wearing the exact uniform, no make up, trousers or skirts, it still happens.

Invalidates the excuse that they look older or are being allowed to dress to old or whatever.

It happens. It's not the girls fault and there's fuck all you can do to stop it

bigKiteFlying · 08/10/2018 12:23

Not sure if school uniform is the determining factor.

This bit of post got eaten by soemthing - but yea its' not the actual uniform.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 08/10/2018 12:23

X post placemats Smile

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 08/10/2018 12:22

The article manages to almost avoid stating this is attack's on girls by boys and men except when it talks of "support boys and men to change their attitudes and challenge harassment ". WTF? Why can't it just be called out for what it is?

bigKiteFlying · 08/10/2018 12:21

True enough.

I supposed the school uniform almost negates the excuse of I thought she was older honest guv because clearly they are still at school.

It's not the real problem though - that's general street harassment that is directed at girls and women. Does highlights it's not what is being worn style or coverage and a young age isn't any kind of protection.

placemats · 08/10/2018 12:21

It is calling on bystanders to challenge harassment when they see it.

From the article.

Really?

It's men who do this. What should be discussed is why men do this.

placemats · 08/10/2018 12:17

I wonder where all the posters on Mumsnet who believe that 13/14 year old girls look like 18 years are now?

It's probably why most sixth forms have a non uniform policy.

I personally think the figure is higher.

Needmoresleep · 08/10/2018 12:12

Not sure if school uniform is the determining factor. DD travelled to school by tube, sometimes in Uniform, but often, because of sports training, not.

She ended up pretty streetwise, with a good death stare. There was police involvement with a friend who was being stalked on her way to school, and plenty of school warnings about flashers and men offering lifts. But I suspect nearby schools without uniforms had any fewer problems.