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Help me have a conversation with DH

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namechange4000 · 07/10/2018 21:34

I've been reading the feminism boards and attended a woman's place meeting earlier in the year. I mention the latest every so often to DH who is a little bit naive. He thinks that the proposed self ID implications will all work itself out and there's nothing to get our knickers in a twist over.

I love this man. Help me educate him!

I read a post a few days ago that mentioned the definition of terrorism and how it applies to the current gender critical politics. It was quite profound. But I can't find it! Can someone link me to that thread, or paste it here?

I also have the list of rights we'd lose, so I'm all good there.

Anything else you think I should share with him at this stage? I'd like him to be willing to hear more and be interested rather than berated. TIA Grin

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namechange4000 · 07/10/2018 23:02

I failed. I'm sorry. I will do better next time.

He fixated on this scenario:

A lesbian bar only welcomes lesbians. A trans 'lady' (his words) goes up but is refused entry as it's women only. I've said that will be against the law and classed as a hate crime. He says it's that same as him trying to get in to a club but being refused because all his clothes come from Asda. Not a hate crime, just a fashion crime. Why can't the lesbians just refuse every trans?

I tried to explain the difference between protected characteristics and so on. But he kept coming back round to bloody Asda clothes.

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JudyDiana · 07/10/2018 22:45

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FFSFFSFFS · 07/10/2018 22:44

Oh and the don't bother it will never happen thread from earlier today re 9 women at a homeless shelter couldn't object to a person with a dick being in a communal shower with them. Ask him if he thinks that makes them bigots?

AnyFucker · 07/10/2018 22:43

Ian Huntley

That should sort it

FFSFFSFFS · 07/10/2018 22:39

How would he feel if you were in the women's changing room at a public pool and someone with a dick came in took their clothes off and opened the locker next to you? And you are not allowed to complain?

HandsOffMyRights · 07/10/2018 22:37

On a previous thread like this somebody said if your DH believes TW to be women then ask him if he would have sex with a TW (if he wasn't with you!)

It's crude, but telling.

OhHolyJesus · 07/10/2018 22:31

Oh thank god I'm not the only one! I'm also a bigot and relying on Mumsnet too much for my sources and info (well I wouldn't have to would I if the mainstream media covered and covered it fairly)!

I'm also fixating in single use plastic but that's another thread....

My only justification to myself is that he doesn't understand as his sex isn't under threat and whilst he has been beaten up and has had the threat of being beaten up by other men he doesn't have the threat or experience of sexual assault so he doesn't get it and I can't ask him to understand that , only to try to understand it.

I don't know, I think he's trying but I can't articulate it well and he shits down so I don't push too much on him as he can't cope with all the scary shit that's out there!

UpstartCrow · 07/10/2018 21:54

Karen White was placed on a psychiatric ward, which means Karen - a convicted sex offender - was put in a locked room with a load of sedated women.
White repeatedly raped one woman on the ward. White then went on to commit 4 separate sexual assaults in a women's prison.

That is what your DH means when he says ''the proposed self ID implications will all work itself out and there's nothing to get our knickers in a twist over.''

He doesn't understand safeguarding. It is for prevention, to lower the risk of an assault; not deal with the aftermath.

Budgieinaberet · 07/10/2018 21:42

Mine is a coach in women's sports. So it was easy.
How would he feel if his mum was in a care home, and having personal care done by a person with a penis ?

JudyDiana · 07/10/2018 21:39

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