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Please speak English

63 replies

Sciencelover101 · 06/10/2018 23:24

Dear Feminists

Having attended the cancelled "meeting" in Leeds and read through various feminists threads, I think the time has come to say, please would you speak in English (or even broken English and one distinguished musician once sang about).

Do you not realise yet that the vast majority of the "average" person on the street has no clue what the hell you go one about? If however you were to say "do you think it is a good idea to sterilise young people?" you might actually get a response.

Here are my "labels": Woman; Conservative: Catholic; Biologist.

Oh shit I see in the aisles.

Do you not yet realise that the whole issues of transsexualism with regard to children and young people crosses political and ideological boundaries?

Do you not think that the average family is disgusted and appalled?

Just stop with the "linguistic register" and talk to people on a human level - you might be surprised how many "allies" you have.

Just for the record - Tish does not speak for me as a parent, I was offended that she could even go there, I do not know you and you cannot speak for me. Karen - all I learned from you is how many ways to kill another person - what that has to do with changes in legislation is beyond me.

Get off your ideological high horses and communicate on a human level, using accessible language that people actually understand.

Thank you

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hipsterfun · 07/10/2018 01:03

Have a paracetamol and a pint of water, OP.

You’ll feel better in the morning.

ShcfG · 07/10/2018 00:22

Fuck knows.

That's anti-feminists, they never make any sense.

RedToothBrush · 07/10/2018 00:20

It might be far right recruitment or trying to get someone to pipe up to agree. So that then MN can be smeared on that on twitter.

ImNotonLinkedInNo · 07/10/2018 00:16

who is the 'we' in the OP's post? Men? Non feminists? Trans?

conservative14 · 07/10/2018 00:16

haha

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/10/2018 00:13

So OP went to a meeting (Women's Place maybe) and was ignored by a couple of feminists. OP has now come on here to tell us off for that? Maybe?

RedToothBrush · 07/10/2018 00:09

Well, I was hoping this is was our typical male TRA, but this is lost on me. Have I missed something?

I'm guessing it's one of those anti Liberal types. Hates Middle class people and clever people. Likes Nigel. Likes Trump.

If they aren't, fuck knows.

terryleather · 07/10/2018 00:09

*Who's Tish?

Who's Karen?

Are you on glue?*

Don't care just as long as they're not wearing nappies...

Pywife2 · 07/10/2018 00:09

Well this is interesting (if incomprehensible). I suspect OP will wake up with a headache in the morning.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 07/10/2018 00:06

Who's Tish?

Who's Karen?

Are you on glue?

ShcfG · 07/10/2018 00:06

I loved the WPUK meeting I went to! Despite difficulties (cancelled venue at short notice, and logistics of moving us all to another venue ) it all went beautifully well. In fact, it provided the perfect talking point for all of us being ferried, to talk with each other!

7Days · 07/10/2018 00:03

So... As far as I can make out.... feminists are WRONG for agreeing with you?

Or is this another, just ask nicely ladies, I'm sure those nice gentlemen will grant you your wishes, within reason of course.

BreconBeBuggered · 07/10/2018 00:00

Not a bloody word. Am I meant to know who Tish and Karen are?

AornisHades · 06/10/2018 23:53

You've been awfully busy in the last hour.

CharlieParley · 06/10/2018 23:52

Well, I was hoping this is was our typical male TRA, but this is lost on me. Have I missed something? Where is this hostility coming from? I went to a WPUK meeting and hate is the last thing I experienced there.

FastWindow · 06/10/2018 23:50

Who is Tish?
Who is Karen?
Are you on glue op? Confused

RedToothBrush · 06/10/2018 23:50

You are attacking people who are objecting to 'pregnant people' and 'menstruaters' and 'cis'.

Why?

I'm loving the t-rexing

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/10/2018 23:49

Sciencelover101 your OP makes no sense. I advance searched you and you've a total of 15 posts, all made in the last hour.

Lemon drizzle, anyone?

Sciencelover101 · 06/10/2018 23:48

I am sodding angry, is that ok? Or do I need some sort of oppression medal to state that human fact?

What angers me and other people that live in the "real world" is that feminists seem to think they are the only ones fighting this toxic ideology when the reality is that we are fighting in our own ways.

We do not whinge and whine about the state of the world we take action in more subtle ways, ordinarily without annoying other people. You seem to think you have the moral high ground but the reality is that in my limited experience the message I got from the meeting is that you are just as hateful as the trans activists on the other side of Millennium Square.

I have never felt so threatened by both sides of the argument, so intimated by both sides and totally alienated.

Did Tish come and speak with me? Who dares to speak for parents? NO

Did Karen come to speak to me as someone who has experienced violence at the hand of the trans agenda? No

HYPOCRITES of the largest magnitude.

Thank you and goodnight

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CharlieParley · 06/10/2018 23:47

Funny. Those "average" people on my local high street had no problem understanding me today. Because I don't need anyone to tell me how to approach an average person. I am an average person.

But if you mean to say we're too educated, too opinionated, too intellectual, too wrapped up in empirical data and feminist theory here on the FWR board to be understood by the average woman on the street, I just wonder:

Does women having an intelligent, informed discussion scare you?

Karen honouring women who've been murdered by men, you find that pointless?

Are you a man?

ErrolTheDragon · 06/10/2018 23:44

It's not us who don't want to speak in plain English.

Woman - adult human female.

Women don't have penises.

Humans can't change sex.

Is that what you want? Because we've said it often enough.Confused

PerverseConverse · 06/10/2018 23:43

Full moon has been and gone already but it wouldn't surprise me if there was another one tonight! I've been without WiFi or mobile data since breakfast and have come back home to find all kinds of weird shit on here tonight.

Hidingtonothing · 06/10/2018 23:41

Great, I’ve woken DC up laughing now, thanks a bunch Sharon Angry

SittingAround1 · 06/10/2018 23:40

I was with you until the paragraph starting with 'Just for the record'... then I got lost, which is funny considering the title of your thread.

Sciencelover101 · 06/10/2018 23:39

I was also banned from twitter for stating biological facts so yes I get it

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