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Gender neutral toilets at Bournemouth Uni **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

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PretendingToBeAMuggle · 06/10/2018 17:38

Please can you help me with links/arguments against men in female toilets? (I'm waiting for clarification as to whether this is a post for a third toilet space - gender neutral, rather than encroaching on female only spaces.) But expect to get massive flak and probably backlash. This is a group I'm in on Facebook which promotes being 'woke' and is probably full of TRAs waiting to shout Down and dissent. As you can tell I'm not very articulate but any help to my argument would be greatly appreciated, I'll post screenshots below

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PretendingToBeAMuggle · 07/10/2018 09:18

Thanks all, the threads moved on and v little comment was made of my questioning (I'd suspected I would either be labelled a transphobe or ignored as their is no logical rational for penises in female toilets. I'm slowly starting to discuss this issue after lurking on the feminist boards and was the first among my friends to bring this up, they share equal concerns but seemingly like most politicians are afraid of the backlash of speaking out in anyway against self-id

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FekkoTheLawyer · 07/10/2018 08:43

Yes and who you want to share this space with.

Princess9891 · 07/10/2018 08:29

It's just a fucking toilet!

Micke · 07/10/2018 08:28

Surely regular men’s/women’s toilets are gender neutral? No one cares which gender you identify as, just use the appropriate one for your sex

Exactly, they were already gender neutral. What these are is unisex.

Artesia · 07/10/2018 07:53

Surely regular men’s/women’s toilets are gender neutral? No one cares which gender you identify as, just use the appropriate one for your sex.

NameChangedAgain18 · 07/10/2018 07:35

At any uni, and for sure at B'ham there must be a lot of Muslims (of both sexes) for whom this may be problematic. For which reason if no other I'd actually be very surprised if there aren't still single sex loos available.

My university certainly wasn’t thinking about its many Muslim students when it enshrined self-ID in its policies, thereby allowing males into the communal female changing rooms at the gym and swimming pool (no cubicles available) or creating a situation where a female student could end up sharing a bedroom with a penis owner.

All this is a failure in its statutory duty to promote good relations between groups with different protected characteristics.

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PretendingToBeAMuggle · 07/10/2018 07:24

Sorry yes Bournemouth and individual gender neutral indovodual cubicle toilets it appears, unclear if women only toilets continue to exist

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PretendingToBeAMuggle · 07/10/2018 07:23

Why are all these institutions acting? Am I correct in thinking currently individuals need a GRC to be considered the gender of their choosing? And only when self ID (hopefully) does (not) come in will individuals of all biological sex's be able to pick and choose which toilet/changing room they enter?

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ArfArfBarf · 06/10/2018 19:18

Will do now

VickyEadie · 06/10/2018 19:17

ArfArfBarf

Have you recorded that one on the 'This never happens' thread?

ArfArfBarf · 06/10/2018 19:12

Gender neutral toilets working out super well for sex offenders at UEA

www.edp24.co.uk/news/man-who-secretly-filmed-female-students-in-toilets-at-university-of-east-anglia-in-norwich-to-be-sentenced-today-1-4790075

FekkoTheLawyer · 06/10/2018 19:08

Central St Martins - still single sex, thank Christ (or there would have been a Fekko tantrum - a very large one). But since they seem to have an awful lot of (women) students from Asia and ME they won't kill that golden goose.

I've stopped using the word female these days. It's no longer useful.

VickyEadie · 06/10/2018 19:08

I plan, if ever I'm in a place with 'gender (sic) neutral' loos, to demand them to show me a separate women's. I plan to tell them my previous experiences with men mean I cannot contemplate being alone in a toilet which a man might enter.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/10/2018 19:02

I know DDs department at Cambridge has separate sex loos because she's commented that while there are men's on each floor, the women's are on alternate floors. This is, TBF, in a department with < 25% female students. I guess places which are still all too aware of the need to combat good old fashioned sexism and gender stereotypes are likely to be a bit less 'woke'.

stopthecavalry · 06/10/2018 18:53

Spend plenty of time around unis incl birmingham. I see a range of toilet types. Never had a problem finding single sex toilets.

WrongKindOfFace · 06/10/2018 18:45

I was at our local uni recently and they have several types of loos. Normal loos with cubicles, single room loos off a corridor just marked as loos or accessible, and in the student union gender neutral loos. Funnily enough I didn’t see anyone use the gender neutral loos whilst I was there.

Women don’t want to share with men should be reason enough.

trumptrump · 06/10/2018 18:42

I can't decide what's wrong: gender neutral loos or separate sex toilets with self-id. I don't want either! I want toilets separating by chromosomes! Sad

JiltedJohnsJulie · 06/10/2018 18:39

We need to start a new religion. One where we aren’t allowed to have men in our changing rooms or showers. Perhaps if they are recognising we need protecting from rape and sexual assault, we can get protection on religious grounds?

TheFairyCaravan · 06/10/2018 18:39

The University of East Anglia has unisex toilets in some buildings.

Here

Sowhatifisaycunt · 06/10/2018 18:35

I was at one of the Cambridge University colleges for a wedding earlier this year and they had gender neutral loos.

MorrisZapp · 06/10/2018 18:28

What are these toilets? Mixed sex

Who can use them? Everyone

Why's there a picture of a smiling man with long hair? Fuck knows

DryHeave · 06/10/2018 18:26

Since when has “unisex” been totally replaced by the term “gender neutral”? Sex matters. Gender oppresses everyone.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/10/2018 18:05

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ErrolTheDragon · 06/10/2018 17:54

Please can you help me with links/arguments against men in female toilets

At any uni, and for sure at B'ham there must be a lot of Muslims (of both sexes) for whom this may be problematic. For which reason if no other I'd actually be very surprised if there aren't still single sex loos available.

LittleBookofCalm · 06/10/2018 17:49

actually wrong, same as Goldsmiths