What’s your definition of womxn?

Yes why would anyone think the urban dictionary was a credible source anyway?So odd.

There are clearly many high profile organisations being told that this is how to be inclusive. Don't want to be on the wrong side of history... 🙄🙄

I know, but the Wellcome Collection as a serious academic body has linked to the ‘Urban Dictionary’.

It makes me wonder whether there is any other definition of the word, and more seriously, whether BAME women reject the word women too.

Sorry by crazy internet people I was more meaning the various earnest sounding urban dictionary bits.

Every day this whole thing just makes me 😮 all over again.

The problem is that the Wellcome Trust is not crazy internet, they are a major funder of medical research, which effects women as well as men.

Even if you take a historical perspective, which is what archivists should do, you need to take into account that trans definitions are a relatively new perspective and I do not think you can re-write history to create categories which people at the time did not recognise.

I do think the initiative to include marginalised voices is great, and to offer new ways of reading documents to get access to marginalised peoples, but I do not think you can impose current day identity politics on the past.

That is besides the point that many women’s issues historically and now were and are a result of the embodied female nature. So you cannot conflate these with trans people, who have a separate and distinct history and needs.

So, that is why I think by being inclusive, they are creating new categories of exclusion. You just cannot look at the history of women and trans people through the same lens.

Unfortunately, I cannot get to London, so it will have to be correspondence and yes, I will update.

the Trans demand activists are working on changing the OED definition of woman

Really? In what sense? Have they approached the OED? Do we need to approached the OED ourselves?

Womxn means men and women. It's like the Black Femme Film festival. Femme means men and women. It's so that we can't have anything for women.

"A spelling of "women" that is a more inclusive, progressive term that not only sheds light on the prejudice, discrimination, and institutional barriers womxn have faced, but to also show that womxn are not the extension of men (as hinted by the classic Bible story of Adam and Eve) but their own free and separate entities. More intersectional than womyn because it includes trans-women and women of color. *
According to fucking who?

So batshit.

Never felt more like using the wee head exploding emoji 🤯🤯

The word is women, crazy internet people.

Let us know if they reply KataraJean 🙄

The Trans demand activists are working on changing the OED definition of woman

But what to? I’ve never heard of a good explanation on what TRA think it should mean.

What a load of eye roll inducing bollocks.
From the crappy man centric photo to the shite suggestion that the word “woman” excludes parts of the female population based on ethnicity.
Trans is not a race. Stop trying to conflate the two.

Okay, Urban Dictionary says mxn is short for Mexican.

Given that womxn is to remove the men from women then it makes sense that there is no parallel definition of mxn.

I note that the third Urban Dictionary definition says a misspelling of women.

I may take the hit and write and ask the curators how they propose to define the class of people who historically and currently have female reproductive organs and give birth, and if the use of the word womxn is not simply setting up a new category of exclusion?

Wow, I have no words, the word woman is being taken away, if it has not already gone.

What do we call the class of people who have female reproductive organs and give birth? You know, when we need to talk about the multiple issues which affect them and only them? I presume women remains okay for that?

And why is there not a parallel definition of mxn? Or is there, let me check.

This articulates my thoughts

Wtaf?
Since when has the term woman not included black women?

And trans men is where trans intersects with women because woman is a biological term not an outfit.

So. Sick. Of. This. Crap.

Prof. Michael Biggs,

"I have entered this debate not because I am a feminist but because freedom of speech is one of the highest values of a democratic society, and the basic foundation of university life.
Transgender activism poses a grave threat to freedom of speech. I think of the young MPhil student who had to disguise herself to attend this meeting because she feared the reaction
of fellow students. This is the generation that we have educated "

users.ox.ac.uk/~sfos0060/FreeSpeechOxford.pdf

I have no idea any more what it real and what is a joke.

Is this a joke? Like that 2012 sitcom thing?

Has someone put something in the water? Or are loads of people just going insane?

SERIOUSLY?!?!
The Wellcome are actually non-ironically using the spelling womxn?
What are they doing?
How are you even supposed to pronounce that?
Why would women of colour be excluded from "womyn"? Why would you even change the standard spelling from "women" for an event like this? Trans women (NB, I'd bet they'll get flack for the hyphen) are literally males. So if you want to talk about women being perceived only as an extension of men, not a separate set of unique individuals in their own right as a biological sex, you might want to take a long hard look at yourselves. Because you're perpetuating that exact myth by centering male feelings in using this load of rubbish.
No woman of colour is going to feel excluded by the word woman.
This is all coming from one place, and one place only.
The males who want to be perceived as women.

I reckon that photo was taken a fraction of a second before the woman in the middle vomitted all over the manful mansplainer's wee booklet.

Its free and on Friday 19 October 2018, 15:30—17:00

'womxn'

"A spelling of "women" that is a more inclusive, progressive term that not only sheds light on the prejudice, discrimination, and institutional barriers womxn have faced, but to also show that womxn are not the extension of men (as hinted by the classic Bible story of Adam and Eve) but their own free and separate entities. More intersectional than womyn because it includes trans-women and women of color.
Womxn's voice's have been excluded from mainstream dialogues for generations."

Eh?

"Woomksn" ? "Wimmksn"? Oh, I get it, the letters 'a' and 'e' must be as dangerous and bigotty as the letter 'k' that had to be removed from 'folx'

Nearest woman is looking at his piece of paper and thinking, "Are you sure?"
Or possibly, "Are you on glue?"
Woman on the left is thinking, "Aw, just fuck off, you wee gobshite."

But all are too nice and polite to say anything!

Gaslight, sunlight, they are completely different things. He's sure of it. Look, he has an earring! He's bound to be sensitive.

I'm not saying thats a dick pic, but it could a dick pic from their reaction.

Daylighting? Or gaslighting?

Oh come on, you have no idea how they identify.
And anyway he's probably manfully explaining that 'Daylighting' means creating cracks to let in the light or something cool like that, and not any other less desirable kind of lighting. No siree Bob.

Middle woman is doing the "you are wrong but I'm not sure if it would be rude to point that out" gesture.