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Spectator podcast —Madeleine Kearnes and India Willoughby

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MuseumofInnocence · 05/10/2018 16:45

For Those who Access podcasts, this week there is a debate between IW and Madeleine Kearns on the Spectator Podcast. It's a joy to listen to IMO as IW just runs around sounding more and more unhinged while MK just makes her point very clearly. Please listen, it's only ten Minutes or so

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Polynerd · 12/10/2018 19:29

Just listened to this - although I almost couldn't because IW was so incredibly patronising. I love Katy Balls (the host) and reckon she is secretly GC.

VovoBickie · 06/10/2018 04:44

What's this hormone levels affect gender in the brain thing? When did we all decide gender was innate? I'd really love to get a breakdown of the "gender area" of our brains. Doesn't make much sense considering gender has different expectations depending on what time and place you're in.

R0wantrees · 06/10/2018 01:01

IW 'what is your interest, what is your motivation?'

MK 'Child welfare'

R0wantrees · 06/10/2018 00:59

Someone should transcribe what IW actually says.

It would be much easier to read what IW says rather than having to listen.

Good to know IW is fully promoting Mermaids Charity.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 22:38

Oh, yes, I did hope people who listened actually heard someone seriously suggest puberty as an optional idea that could be forced on someone.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/10/2018 22:32

I love the bit where IW just says "I can't listen to this" and the interviewer immediately asks a question about women just being shut down from debating

I liked that bit too Grin

Now100 · 05/10/2018 22:31

I love the bit where IW just says "I can't listen to this" and the interviewer immediately asks a question about women just being shut down from debating.

Hope that makes sense!

GulagsMyArse · 05/10/2018 20:50

I feel a bit sorry for India, I get the feeling india desperately wants to be the only trans in the village

GulagsMyArse · 05/10/2018 20:48

vomit-worthy, codsbollocks, and I'm not talking about the lovely Scottish woman

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/10/2018 20:43

Grin "All men on earth have had a sex change"

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/10/2018 20:37

IW (accusingly) "so you think children should be made to go through puberty"

Shock
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/10/2018 20:33

I'm listening now IW is massively patronising. Scottish woman is great.

PositivelyPERF · 05/10/2018 20:02

Sadly, I can't get a brain transplant

Am I the only one who immediately thought of the scarecrow, in The Wizard Of Oz?

LondonPainter · 05/10/2018 20:01

Classic male behaviour! Talking over the women, "keep your beak out", etc

BlooperReel · 05/10/2018 19:57

IW comes across as a condescending, sneering, twat.

placemats · 05/10/2018 19:36

India gets the last words in.

But India sounds unhinged sadly with those last words.

'Sadly, I can't get a brain transplant'

Seriously?

placemats · 05/10/2018 19:30

India mentions mumsnet and FWR and equates FWR to hatred to gays in the 70s and 80s.

India hates us.

placemats · 05/10/2018 19:29

So any way I'm getting adverts from Redbubble, I've never gone on this site, and on of the baby vests has a saying on it, yes a baby vest,

Trans is beautiful.

placemats · 05/10/2018 19:27

India is using 'fact' a lot.

Bullshit.

placemats · 05/10/2018 19:26

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/the-spectator-podcast-should-we-educate-children-on-transgender-issues/

India is saying she is transgender.

Interesting.

India conflates being trans with being Black, Gay and any other minority that is being misunderstood.

placemats · 05/10/2018 19:24

India did not grow up in the 70s and 80s. India is 53.

At the age of 53, India would have been an adult in the 80s and was obviously born in 1966.

FloralBunting · 05/10/2018 19:03

I just downloaded a podcast reader app and searched for the Spectator podcast. Was the first one on the list.

SturdyEarmuffs · 05/10/2018 18:55

I don't know how to link podcasts? If you have access to podcasts, just search for the spectator one & it's the most recent one.

SturdyEarmuffs · 05/10/2018 18:54

The distraction technique applied by IW just made IW sound a bit thick. None of the questions they were asked had much to do with the memememememe rants, and the sneering about teacher/nanny made IW sound somewhat bitter. Not sure why a teacher or nanny would evoke such a strong reaction in IW. Madeleine was good to highlight the lack of any actual qualifications in LGBT woke trainer while IW was trying to point out trans was the only qualification required in dealing with this subject. And to be so presumptuous about someone else's medical history or potential gender issues. Seems like IW is just as capable of been closed minded as those IW accuses of being so.

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