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RubyViolet · 05/10/2018 12:45

Transphobia v Feminism discourse...on now.

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DayMay · 05/10/2018 14:45

They admitted today they know this can lead to totalitarianism.

They are telling us something we know is a lie.

They fund organisations to train professionals to lie and force the lie on the public.

The bullshit that MPs and ministers who have police protection are too scared is bollocks.

No males, no lies.
There is no compromise.

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 05/10/2018 14:45

if things need deciding on a by case basis then Self ID is not appropriate.

Abso-fucking-lutely.

DayMay · 05/10/2018 14:35

Upon reflection, they know the wider public is laughing at politicians saying TWAW and that's why they won't say it anymore.

They know the news that the Emperor has no clothes on is spreading and that politicians are now a laughing stock

They know they have a reputation for being liars and underhand.

The public is angry at politicians.

No males, no lies.
There is no compromise.

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RubyViolet · 05/10/2018 13:29

Maybe l am confusing not engaging with not knowing. The NUS spokeswoman definitely didn’t want to engage. I just felt HK was talking about/referring to pre and post surgery Transpeople not the wider group of people under the Stonewall trans umbrella.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/10/2018 13:17

'No males, no lies.

There is no compromise.'

That sounds like something we could chant on a march.

arranfan · 05/10/2018 13:17

There is no excuse for Helena K not to know. A MNetter recently mentioned that she'd written to her about these issues and received a fob off answer in return.

bookgirl1982 · 05/10/2018 13:15

The presenter seemed to understand the problems.

If the NUS president is in charge of the jess Bradley investigation then I'm not surprised all has gone quiet.

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RubyViolet · 05/10/2018 13:13

It’s a start, just to see this being discussed on the BBC. Helena Kennedy has no idea what the issue is though, she doesn’t appear to know what trans encompasses now.

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Nocado · 05/10/2018 12:58

Long uncomfortable pause after Jo Coburn asked "Are TW women?" and then not answered directly.

I was disappointed how this started but it improved. One chap was gender critical and the other echoed back to Baroness Kennedy that if things need deciding on a case by case basis then Self ID is not appropriate. The NUS woman lost credibility by not sticking to the subject under discussion imo.

DayMay · 05/10/2018 12:57

Fuck this.

They just made me more determined to hold the line.

No males, no lies.

There is no compromise.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/10/2018 12:52

Thanks. I caught the end. Oh well.

doublethink · 05/10/2018 12:47

My blood pressure can't take watching it today (have emailed and called several organisations about safeguarding and female only spaces today and I'm physically shaking), so please post updates!

bookgirl1982 · 05/10/2018 12:46

I expected more from Helena Kennedy.