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Plans for unisex toilets at Old Trafford

45 replies

WrongSideOfHistory · 04/10/2018 18:47

Not overjoyed about the plans, but some of the replies have given me faith in common sense at least
https://twitter.com/mennewsdesk/status/1047743180773445633

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GoldenWonderwall · 04/10/2018 19:32

I’ve been to a take that gig at ot and they wouldn’t let the 90% female audience use any of the male toilets. How times have fucking changed.

userblablabla · 04/10/2018 19:26

I’m usually all for unisex loos but sharing with drunk, rowdy male football fans doesn’t sound appealing to me

VickyEadie · 04/10/2018 19:26

Or they could be talking about building a totally separate gender neutral block. As long as it didn’t reduce the number of single sex facilities I can’t say say I would have a problem with that.

Not possible at OT - the design of the stadium means that each section is separated from the others and most are upstairs - we climb about 8 flights to get to our section and there's no room at the bottom for any sort of "block" (which in any case would have to serve all the other levels accessed from our staircase.) On our landing/section, as I said earlier, there are 2 toilets, one of each sex.

In any case, you couldn't have people going downstairs to the toilet and then back up again, it would be a health and safety nightmare.

Floisme · 04/10/2018 19:23

Or they could be talking about building a totally separate gender neutral block. As long as it didn’t reduce the number of single sex facilities I can’t say say I would have a problem with that.

VickyEadie · 04/10/2018 19:23

Who advised the United management this would be a good idea? Was it Stonewall or did they come up with this ridiculous proposal themselves?

The article has the club mentioning working with Stonewall...

VickyEadie · 04/10/2018 19:22

A friend of mine was at The Bridge Theatre last week where they have gender neutral or rather mixed toilets and a man was peeing with the door open. She’s in her 60s and is not shy, she’s seen it all but was horrified, why should she go to the loo with men who won’t even close the door?

In their hurry to get back out and on the beer again (which you can freely buy at OT), they're going to piss all over the seats as well, aren't they?

KatVonGulag · 04/10/2018 19:22

One way it would be good... the horrific queues would peak so many men.

Women and girls however, don't forget your cleaning kits, you really don't want to be sitting on the seats where pissed blokes have been.

BigGreenOlives · 04/10/2018 19:19

A friend of mine was at The Bridge Theatre last week where they have gender neutral or rather mixed toilets and a man was peeing with the door open. She’s in her 60s and is not shy, she’s seen it all but was horrified, why should she go to the loo with men who won’t even close the door?

Procrastinator1 · 04/10/2018 19:18

Who advised the United management this would be a good idea? Was it Stonewall or did they come up with this ridiculous proposal themselves?

VickyEadie · 04/10/2018 19:18

Will they be instead of single sex toilets toilets or as well as? That article doesn’t make it clear.

Many sections at OT only have one of each sex toilet (with about 12 cubicles in the women's, I can't speak for the men's but there are urinals in theirs) - so they'd have to unisex both.

VickyEadie · 04/10/2018 19:16

I go to Old Trafford quite often. I need to go to the toilet quite a lot - often 3 or 4 times during my visit. The queues for the women's toilets in our section are horrendous - I often spend the whole of half-time waiting to use the toilet, so I'd be amused at the reaction of most men to having to queue with the women. Especially as they wouldn't be able to use urinals any longer, making the queues even bloody longer.

Of course, one bad experience and I'd never go again, which I think would be the case for a fair few women.

Floisme · 04/10/2018 19:15

Will they be instead of single sex toilets toilets or as well as? That article doesn’t make it clear.

RedToothBrush · 04/10/2018 19:15

A bunch of pissed up blokes in a place where women are a minority already. What could possibly go wrong there.

NoseringGirl · 04/10/2018 19:07

I would not be okay with this! The women's toilets at the football ground I go to have big signs on the door saying that any male supporter found using the female toilets will have their season ticket taken from them. I hope it stays that way.

RepealtheGRA · 04/10/2018 19:05

These in particular, really difficult to tell which side of the fence they’re on.

Plans for unisex toilets at Old Trafford
RepealtheGRA · 04/10/2018 19:03

It’s difficult to tell with so many of the respondents being on the fence here, but I don’t think their fans we’re in favour? Maybe they should run a poll?

OvaHere · 04/10/2018 19:03

Drunk male footy fans, women and kids all in the same enclosed space. What could possibly go wrong!

Slapbetcommissioner · 04/10/2018 19:01

Welcoming and inclusive to all football supporters.... Unless they're women of course 🙄

FermatsTheorem · 04/10/2018 18:54

Yup, the respondents (mostly male) get it.

As one says: way to further discourage women and girls from attending football matches.Sad

Redshoeblueshoe · 04/10/2018 18:50

I love Andy's response
They should take more interest in their player's taking the piss on the field. Grin

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