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How would you risk assess this?

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averylongtimeago · 04/10/2018 18:17

This is the new REN (residential event notification) form that any leader in Guiding has to send off for approval before girls can be taken away.
You have to include risk assessments for everything- including any males who may be on site.

However, what am I to do about the gender neutral attendees? Where do they sleep? Which loos and showers do they use?

How the hell do I risk assess that?

How would you risk assess this?
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MrsAird · 04/10/2018 22:33

please send this to James Kirkup at the Spectator

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 22:27

So male/ female/ gender neutral

Means that they see male and female as genders

When they say are males coming they mean people who feel male in head

If all attendees are quietly asked to Id as female for weekend, no concerns about additional facilities

That's correct I think

Or are they ecpecting you to keep dick away from the girls?

No> if you say your female, your female.

They also therefore support not only that twaw and tmam but also that they are actually female/ male.

Wow.

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 22:22

sorry should have said that it should be either sex, or both sex and gender identity.

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 22:21

its either
sex: male / female
or gender identity with an open box as there may be 70+ options

averylongtimeago · 04/10/2018 21:11

We are supposed to put them down as their chosen gender, and to not tell either the other children or their parents about the possibility of a male bodied young person.
The same if it is an adult attending.

And as GG have said it is up to the individual leader to risk assess, I can guess exactly where the buck would stop.

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LemonJello · 04/10/2018 20:49

Have pm’d you averylongtimeago

Badstyley · 04/10/2018 19:29

Are there any children who aren’t either male or female? I’d put the penis havers down as male and the vagina havers down as female, that is what male and female mean. Let them sort that shit out. If they want to chuck you out let them, I’d love to see that fly in a court of law, because the law is stil the law, and they are breaking it.

Popchyk · 04/10/2018 19:14

You've got me there.

What do they mean by male/female/gender neutral in the Other Children section? I can't fathom that.

Are there any males attending this event? Do they mean biological males? Or women/girls who identify as male? Or both?

Mumsnut · 04/10/2018 19:10

Put it this way: where do you think the buck will stop?

I would bat it back to them in the circs that trans or gender neutral peeps were planning to attend.

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