Who is the driving force behind the Trans agenda?

to distract from brexit?

Regarding the edges nestling - I bet Dr Horrors is one such candidate. The way he is invested...

I have a starting point for Ministers pushing the agenda.

It is 2010 and the civil servants in the Equalities Department hand the new Minister (Lynn Featherstone Lib Dem, coalition Minister) a draft document that was eventually published in December 2011 entitled "Advancing Transgender Equality: An Action Plan"

They had read her mind and anticipated that it was an action plan that she would get behind. Amazing!

She said:

And my civil servants, you know, they had already read up all about me. They were very clever. It is not as if I was some kind of foreign body coming in. I found I had a submission for a transgender action plan, which I would have done, but they had thought ahead from everything I had said on the Equality Bill. I thought how very clever. I mean, that wasn’t on anyone’s list but they had obviously decided that would be one of my priorities. You know, just lots of stuff like that. But that was all given. They knew what Lib Dem priorities were, so they were and submissions came up and I quickly understood what a submission was. I always felt they were quite woolly, some of them, just not very good alternatives given, not always proper thinking. *

Civil Servants are so clever, aren't they. And Lib Dems, too. Lib Dem fingerprints all over it - who'd have thought it?

*www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/ministers-reflect/person/lynne-featherstone/

There is also an element for politicians of being able to virtue signal without having to do anything that might radically change the status quo, though it looks like this one has backfired.

I think an awful lot of men secretly nestle under the edges of the trans umbrella

When you say 'an awful lot', what sort of percentage are we talking about here ? - don't rush to answer this as I'm just out (err...going to a pub rather than emerging from some closet or other).

I think an awful lot of men secretly nestle under the edges of the trans umbrella as someone else on these boards put it (sorry can't remember who but I totally agreed with them) and/or are attracted to those who do so there's a vested interest right there...

kesstrel - That's a really interesting analogy, and makes a lot of sense

I think that Stonewall merely saw a ball and, having lost their original ball, picked it up and ran with it. I think the pharma companies did much the same.

What I think is really behind it is rich white men wanting to strengthen the patriarchal society since they started losing ground to feminism. Very conspiracy theory, I know .

So, basically some powerful men start finding that things are not quite as wondrous for them as they used to be - wife being a bit uppity, daughters refusing to bow down to their superior wisdom, dammit women showing less respect. As bad as that was, then come women in the boardrooms (one is one too many) and then fhs into Parliament. Got to stop this awful trend. The gels are meant to stay at home and make nice meals, do the hoovering, where are those clean white shirts? The wife wants a bloody job! So they see some bloke who used to be famous saying he's a woman now, and encourage him (obviously, he remains male when golfing), and then a word here and there and Student Unions and Stonewall jump.

Just my imagination. No facts or anything

Good comparison kesstrel.
There is a certain type of power that doctors and others wield in being seen to cure the sick which can be dangerously corrupted.
There was a recent thread on how lobotomies were used to "treat" women with mental health problems -epilepsy and possibly autism including one of the Kennedys, leaving them as zombies.
Twilight sleep was another older scandals
And then the Andrew Wakefield affair, he fabricated data to create the MMR panic and singlehandedly brought measles back
Mermaids and the like have a saviour complex, seeing themselves as heroes but in the future they will be vilified for having sterilised and mutilated teenagers.

I don't think money necessarily needs to be an explanation. Power, status, the feeling of belonging to an exclusive virtuous group, could well be enough, IMO.

Compare it to Freudianism - a totally made up (and damaging) set of beliefs about psychology that swept society in the 20s and 30s and swiftly became unchallangable orthodoxy. Partly because Freud got in first with his theories, partly because he acted to suppress and villify any challengers. He was able to set up himself and his followers as the unquestionable experts (rather like Stonewall has done) in a virtual echo chamber. Anyone who questioned it was regarded as ignorant and regressive (and probably in prudish denial about the sexual elements of the doctrine).

Like Freudian psychoanalysts, a lot of people with fake expertise about trans matters have been able to gain a lot of status and employment, and do a lot of psychologically rewarding virtue-signalling as well.

When you add the power of social media to that, and the fear people have of seeming to be anti LGB rights if the question the T part, I think that could well be enough to explain the whole thing.

Jenny Pritzker is a transwoman billionaire (sister was in Obama admin), Martine Rosenblatt is a Pharma CEO who is into transhumanism and a transwoman. Yeah, and Soros‘ open society foundation. What the endgame is, idk.

If you listen to right wing YouTube, Full tinfoil hat, they will say this is to destroy our culture and to atomize humans, so they are easily governable, microchipped serfs, governed by a technocracy, the new world order. Basically Icke minus the lizard people. Hungary‘s Orban seems to believe as much.

So the choice is basically currently, the Western madness with a complete loss of any boundaries, or nationalist strongmen like Orban, Putin. Reason is dead. It is utterly depressing. And it feels like a standoff of elites, globalist vs nationalist, with the people represented by no one.

Stonewall is a part and is being used imo.
For something this big, there must be real money and pier behind it.

Feel like I should be wearing a tinfoil hat-

Stonewall is the respected branding, the front man in all of this. I'd not be surprised if there were others pulling strings in the background.

Paedophiles didn't disappear with the demise of PIE. And there's lots of money in porn. Just sayin'.

That's an interesting point you make, Bowlofbabelfish, but don't forget all the other drugs these poor people are going to have to take to deal with the illnesses induced by the initial ones.

This situation does however pre-date Ruth Hunt.

George Soros - this is a globa/western agenda; much bigger than Stonewall.

Rockspiders?

pedophiles

They seem to be benefiting massively.

I’m still struggling to understand how such a small number of patients, even on a lifetime course of medicalisation, could generate the sort of revenue that would justify this.

For context, it takes about a billion dollars to bring the average drug to market. That’s why drugs are expensive - the money is recouped and then the profit starts only after that.

One key difference is the lifetime of the revenue stream. A novel drug has a limited patent life and that includes the time it take to do trials - companies usually only have 5-10 years to make a profit before generics are available. Trans patients of course are there for life, so I suppose they can charge what they want, but I’m still not convinced that a simple ‘these people will be paying for hormones and surgery’ is enough of a profit driver.

This and the fact that they are also engaging in such aggressive social engineering makes me convinced that simple pharma profits are not the main driver here. They will be a nice side earner for whomever has an interest, but I don’t think it’s the root cause.

I think I would be deleted for explaining fully what I think the main driver of this is.

Bowlofbabelfish

Thanks I read your link. I can't wrap my head around this. So frightening. I think I need to take some time out to process. I don't really know what else to say except thanks to everyone for their research. Shit.

I think it’s Jennifer Bilek who writes on this. Is she still on twitter?

Every day I am more amazed than before at how many nasty interests are being served by this agenda. Obviously the pharmaceutical industry is the one that most profits, but MRAs and paedophiles are getting a lot out of this too. And it is tearing the left apart, so another goal.

thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

This is a long read but it’s good.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3328210-Follow-the-money-who-is-funding-the-US-transborg

I guess it could be coming from anywhere. These people use social media to push an agenda and their followers can generate that person a lot of money to further their cause. They make out that to be accepting of the trans agenda is what any liberal minded person should happily do.