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Alison Moyet

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Penny1976 · 03/10/2018 14:11

Welcome to the sisterhood.

"I am thankful for activists both pro and anti women’s rights.
You have focussed my mind with your love and your hate.
I am officially radicalised.
#Feminist"

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Bowlofbabelfish · 05/10/2018 14:49

That threat to Johnny. It’s chilling.

I hope he can also see the gallows humour in the ‘my cousin’s dog’s hairdresser’s manicurist is a REALLY bad guy...’ format.

Poor Alison. Goodness knows what sort of threats she’s had.

I’m yet to see a single threat or violent post from the GC side. De nada

Sarahconnor1 · 05/10/2018 14:46

I don't think he is being reprogrammed just taking a break.

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 05/10/2018 14:43

But....I can understand that it must feel scary when you get threats of violence but honestly don't you all think these people are just Twitter warriors? Does anyone really believe some non binary blue haired gangstas are going to turn up on their doorstep??
I mean some of these numpties wpuld be scared to walk onto my estate (and it know scarier people than they do) so I can't imagine taking them seriously.
I'm not famous though so I do get why it's different..kinda.

MorrisZapp · 05/10/2018 14:35

Linehan? Are you kidding? He tweeted about AM being silenced then... went silent?

This is the fucking Stepford Wives. Who's next to be reprogrammed? I could bloody weep.

Floisme · 05/10/2018 14:33

The consultation, so far as I can see, is now completely compromised.

I agree with this too. How can there be consultation if the government's own ministers are afraid to say what they think?

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 14:05

Adding to the list Graham lineham has locked his Twitter account and is taking a break from twitter because of abuse it seems.

And probably on legal advice.

Juells · 05/10/2018 13:48

Screenshot of typical twitter post in that Tom Farr article linked elsewhere. The ideology is steeped in the glorification of violence against women.

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Sarahconnor1 · 05/10/2018 13:44

Adding to the list Graham lineham has locked his Twitter account and is taking a break from twitter because of abuse it seems.

Lang I agree the consultation is utterly compromised no-one can talk about it without being threatened.

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 05/10/2018 11:54

Thank you wander. I honestly only ever heard it to mean child molester etc. I won't use it if it's seen as anti gay.

MrsWinkly · 05/10/2018 11:41

Sorry, cross post. Just read upthread.

Juells · 05/10/2018 11:41

Should have been "I'd like you to tell her to her face..."

MrsWinkly · 05/10/2018 11:41

Aren't those threats Jonny received very similar to the ones someone else received? I can't remember who it was, Miranda Yardley maybe? The bit about coming to 'your funeral' and setting the gangsters loose.
I really hope the police take this seriously, but I don't have much faith that they will.

Juells · 05/10/2018 11:40

Threats to jonny are awful and on his Twitter feed others have said they have recieved similar threats.

"I'd like to tell you to her face that she's not a woman" This is so horrible that I shouldn't laugh, but it is funny that they can't see how revealing it is to imply that...telling a transwoman face to face that she's not a woman will mean violence against you. So very very womanly.

WanderinWomb · 05/10/2018 11:26

In prison slang and elsewhere nonce means sex-offender ( against adults or children) and is really commonly stillused against gay men. Its a very dehumanising term and often goes hand in hand with violent physical attacks and credible threats to life .

At the time that gay men were imprisoned for consensual adult sex they were included in "nonces"

Seen as homophobic by many not at all by others , som say it used to be but not any more. I avoid it personally , even for sex-offenders.

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 05/10/2018 11:07

Whose right? Me? It might be regional though. Crap I'd be morto if I had being flinging nonce around and people thought I was homophobic!

FloraHiggins · 05/10/2018 11:01

Blush Oh god, I had a brain blip and completely fucked that up! Yes you're quite right, apologies for clouding the issue.

SirVixofVixHall · 05/10/2018 11:01

Sarahconnor1 yes, absolutely. That is what I meant, but didn’t express properly ! ( lack of caffeine, now rectified..)

ErrolTheDragon · 05/10/2018 11:01

Yes - so that vile threat is also homophobic in calling Johnny a 'nonce' just because he's gay.

If the threat is deemed to be criminal, then that should make it a hate crime.

IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 05/10/2018 10:57

I have always used "nonce" to mean paedophile Shock Is that not what most people use it to mean??

FloraHiggins · 05/10/2018 10:45

Who cares about being homophobic or misogynistic? "Nonce" and "bitch" are fine but asking for debate is the most transphobic thing ever.

gendercritter · 05/10/2018 10:09

You know how if you're a human right's activist, banging a drum about a worthy cause which involves helping an oppressed and very vulnerable minority...... and you have to resort to threatening and terrifying other people to get them to accept what you're saying.

Yeah, that. Maybe your cause isn't so very noble afterall. Maybe the people you're supporting aren't so very fragile.

Maybe, actually, you're the bad guys.

LangCleg · 05/10/2018 10:07

The consultation, so far as I can see, is now completely compromised.

Sarahconnor1 · 05/10/2018 10:04

government really need to step in now and actively support people being free to discuss transactivism and self id . This is all quite mad.

I agree but not just the gvt, all MPs need to speak out, if not on the trans issue then on the freedom of speech, freedom of assembly etc point.

numptynuts · 05/10/2018 10:03

Coming not coning!

numptynuts · 05/10/2018 10:03

Oh come on! I would have thought she had more balls than that. I feel like we deserve an explanation. The truth. But we won’t get it. I feel quite let down actually, on behalf of all women and girls.

Don't get me wrong I completely agree with you. She does have balls so what the hell happened?! The back pedalling is embarrassing for her, the backlash coning obvious, why would she do this? Makes no sense.