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Alison Moyet

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Penny1976 · 03/10/2018 14:11

Welcome to the sisterhood.

"I am thankful for activists both pro and anti women’s rights.
You have focussed my mind with your love and your hate.
I am officially radicalised.
#Feminist"

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DayMay · 06/10/2018 06:42

Jonny, thank you for all you do to support women and children.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 06/10/2018 04:48

Thanks Jonny.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/10/2018 01:32

Thanks for letting us know Johnny - and we hope you're ok too.Thanks

JonnyBest · 06/10/2018 01:02

Hi everyone
I can't say much about Alison, but we are in touch with her and she's ok. She was subjected to some appalling TRA bullying and it was just too much, too quickly. That's all I'll say for now.
Best to all,
Jonny

AnyFucker · 05/10/2018 23:33

Yup

Budgieinaberet · 05/10/2018 21:33

Thanks I've just signed

mimivanne · 05/10/2018 21:29

Yay 5000

Popchyk · 05/10/2018 21:28

5000 now. yay.

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 05/10/2018 21:19

Jonathon Best's petition is just a few signatures shy of 5000 at the moment, if anyone who hasn't signed feels like pushing it up. (Petition re stonewall)
www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

SirVixofVixHall · 05/10/2018 20:46

Baddiel has joined up ? That sounds like a tweet telling him to dump GL for his “phobia” .
God these transactivists are so controlling aren’t they ? They must lead such dull lives, devoid of any humour.

woman11017 · 05/10/2018 20:05

Not lovely Alison but, David Baddiel has joined up. Smile

@Baddiel
Ah, the Woke Stasi.

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RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 18:48

Who owns the rights to brand Alison Moyet the artist?

When it's a band its does sound quite so insane and when it's a solo artist who doesn't have complete control over their own affairs / freedom of speech.

To explain it a bit more clearly. Footballers create a brand for their name to dodge tax. So you can separate your personal self from your public self for business reasons. Being a recording artist often isn't that different. Remember Prince changing his name to squiggle and comments about slavery or George Michael's dispute with his label and threat to quit the industry completely until he was released.

If the record company effectively 'own' Alison Moyet the brand in some way, then Alison might be legally tied into a scenario where she can not do or say anything which might cause reputational damage to the brand.

In which case, if it was felt she had then the record company PR would be called in to do a damage limitation exercise in which a statement would be released and Alison would pretty much have no choice but to agree with.

It would be a plausible explanation for Alison radicalisation and sudden road to Damascus TWAW in the space of 24 hours. And all the contradiction it contained.

It simply might not have been her choice to make. And it wasn't her statement, it was PRs.

SirVixofVixHall · 05/10/2018 18:12

I imagine she was unprepared, as we all are, for the torrent of abuse that hits anyone speaking out on this.

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 17:24

What does her contract say? Where her hands tied?

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 17:23

Alison is on a relatively small independent label. The bands on it are indie type bands who would generally appeal to a middle aged hipster crowd aged 35 - 50 who escaped from the 80s and 90s. People who would more often than not be left leaning. Think Billy Bragg, The Cult, Lemonheads, Maximo Park, The Proclaimers, Richard Ashcroft.

Willing to make a bet, that the company has a particular brand image and certain expections from their artists to keep within that branding. Plus they probably can not afford to deal with a TRA phone / online campaign. And will have other artists who might feel they can't be on a label with someone who holds certain views they disagree with.

DayMay · 05/10/2018 17:13

Out, talk to the public and all laugh at the Elite.

We are at the beginning of a totalitarian state.

DayMay · 05/10/2018 17:12

These are real people, this isn't a soap opera.

Everyone should calm down in my opinion.

Harrop and MPs will be no safer than anyone else in a totalitarian state. The Emperor currently has everyone in positions of power by the balls and ovaries except the mass public and a few newspapers.

We need to laugh at the powerless fucking useless MPs and so called leaders.

SirVixofVixHall · 05/10/2018 17:07

Hmmm so she signed a very clear and straightforward group letter yet despite being “strong “ and “resilient “ she was somehow “misled” into this and “misrepresented “ .
🤔

enrichedatthegulags · 05/10/2018 16:59

Glad the wise Dr is here to mansplain what Alison ACTUALLY meant.

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RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 16:47

My spectaculation is record label told her to stfu or get dropped.

More or less.

TerfedOff · 05/10/2018 16:09

If she is going to be touring soon perhaps she didn't fancy having demonstrations and the bad publicity of being supposedly transphobic.

Datun · 05/10/2018 16:07

I'm trying to use my imagination to come up with what's happened to Alison.

I read a bit of her Twitter awhile ago. And whilst coming across as very nice, she's also got her feet firmly on the ground.

I wonder if her agent was pissed off over her signing that letter and got her to issue a retraction., Which pissed her off in turn And so she is shutting up shop for the time being.

It could be that she is not prepared to front her own Twitter, whilst she feels she cannot be honest. Hence telling her team to get on with it themselves.

As someone pointed out above (Red?), there could be a conflict between her personal opinion, and her professional obligations.

She will have other people to consider, not just herself.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/10/2018 14:59

The consultation, so far as I can see, is now completely compromised.

I agree with this.
Between the threats and the disgraceful shut down of peaceful discussion by Leeds City Council and others, the consultation has effectively been nobbled.

SirVixofVixHall · 05/10/2018 14:55

I used to think armchair warriors, but since the Hyde Park thing I’ve been more worried, these are violent people.

SirVixofVixHall · 05/10/2018 14:53

I read Graham’s thread and there are people on there saying that Alison must have been bullied by the evil terfs. Hmm

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