Stonewall encouraging primary aged children to fill in the GRA consultation

Stonewall's youth pack also contains a quote from a child who says that anonymous online fora are the only places they can find friends and presents this as a benefit of youth internet activity (where anyone can be anyone, including an abuser).

Add this to the Allsorts guidance pack, which:

*Recommends allowing confidential disclosures by gender-questioning children, thus creating a safeguarding loophole through which an infiltrating abuser can gain control of a child.

*Disavows the need for multi-agency input into work with gender-questioning children, thus creating a safeguarding loophole which reduces checks and balances on infiltrating abusers.

*Recommends withholding information from parents of gender-questioning with PR (legal parental responsibility - PR can be given to local authorities if parents are abusive, but the guidance means normal parents, not abusive ones), thus creating a safeguarding loophole, which makes it easier for infiltrating abusers because parents are not aware of what is going on with their child.

*Recommends socially transitioning gender-questioning SEND children at school without informing their parents and even if other professionals working with the child disagree.

Now this.

WHATEVER THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE DOING, THIS ALL DIRECTLY MIRRORS ABUSER TACTICS. IT IS MORE THAN DANGEROUS: IT IS CATASTROPHIC.

I've just watched the bit at the end again, because it's been bothering me all day.

This is a video aimed at primary-aged children. It features teenagers, who younger children will naturally look up to and see as role models, telling them to take an action (filling in the GRA consultation) the full implications of which they can't possibly understand. 'I shouldn't have to prove that I'm female' says the obviously male Sashh, in an obviously male voice.

You don't have to listen carefully to hear the sound of children's boundaries being undermined and their trust in their own instincts being trampled on.

So, who do we complain to? Can the charities commission do anything if it hasn't been made by stonewall or mermaids? Presumably youtube won't give a toss...

I’m actually speechless.

Unethical and so fucking wrong on so many levels.

Sounds like they’re trying to game the consultation as they’re worried about it not going their way!

Oh My God.

That video is aimed at children who are MUCH younger than 16.

Are there any guidelines as to who can participate in a government consultation,eg people of voting age, eligible to vote in the UK etc?

There seems to be none for this one.

Getting primary school kids to fill out the consultation, not desperate are they?

Are there any guidelines as to who can participate in a government consultation,eg people of voting age, eligible to vote in the UK etc?

I might get DS to do it in that case, he’s horrified at the thought of girls seeing him wee or get changed. Fucks sake...

Ah right I see. I filled it in months ago so don't really remember the questions, assumed they would ask age.

Surely children would have to lie? I am sure that only answers from people 16 (or 18) and over will count?

There is no ago box on the form.

Surely children would have to lie? I am sure that only answers from people 16 (or 18) and over will count?

They know that the tide is turning, the only way they can push this through is lies and manipulation now.

Penny Mordaunt seems incapable of doing her job right, to me anyway. If she has already decided to 'stand against hate' when there is no fucking hate, only people wishing to keep womens rights.

I REALLY did not want to know that Mxyzptlk

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Olly is the creator of ‘Pop’n’Olly’. Having been noted as one to watch on the Independent on Sunday’s “Rainbow List”, Olly has since spoken at London City Hall and Parliament, regarding Children’s Rights and Mental Health in relation to LGBT+ Education.

He also shared his work at Stonewalls 'Education for All' 2017 Conference.

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Echoes of Larkin 'They fuck you up, ypur mum and dad'

Add sex asignation to the many sins parents can be blamed for.

When we are born, our parents say that we are either male or female. This is recorded on our birth certificate.

I don't know why Labour are bothering about banning feotal sex tests when the parents can just say whether babies are male or female.

That a child who is not old enough to vote, have sex, decide what school to go to or what time they should go to bed, should legally be allowed to change their gender.

Stonewall talk about gender, when what the gender recognition act is all about is changing legal sex. Nothing to do with gender. Changing gender makes it sound trivial - like choosing what sort of clothes to wear.

That a child who is not old enough to vote, have sex, decide what school to go to or what time they should go to bed, should legally be allowed to change their gender

and that if a child whose parents / carers are encouraging watchful waiting wishes to do this anyway no doubt there are charities, organisations and individuals who will support the child against the parents' guidance?

wtf?

“It’s almost as if someone did something they are not too sure about and has to constantly double down to prove that they were right “
That’s what I always think reading stuff from mermaids too. Sorry vicviking I don’t know how to put your quote in bold type.

Thanks Sir
If Mermaids really wanted to support children their message would be that a few children will grow up trans and need to be supported and not bullied while they work this through. Full stop. Instead their mission seems to be to prove that there are hoards of trans kids due to a few gnc toy preferences. It is almost as if someone did something they are not too sure about and has to constantly double down to prove that they were right.

As for stonewall. Would have happily raised funds for them in the past. Now? Ha!

Yes they are a charity and they have a massive income. They are government funded. As I understand it once gay marriage became legal, they have shifted to transactivism because there are some hefty salaries there that need sustaining. Bizarre that an org set up for the support of gay men and lesbian women should now be anti same sex attraction.

I used to support Stonewall. I was really active in their Clause28 campaigns.

I now feel compelled to complain to my MP and the Charity Commission about them.

I believe in free speech. They have a right to their position and to lobby and campaign. But not as a charity(are they?) and not involving children like this.

*We now have one charity demanding that children below the age of consent should be allowed to make legal changes to their sex and another demanding that children should participate in an adult public consultation.

Unethical and dangerous.*

Totally. This does not encourage research or independent thinking at all. It’s completely unethical.

Truly lost for words. A 1st for me.

Totally agree with vicviking’s post on p1.