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Article in today’s Guardian about toilets and trans users.

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SausageOnAFork · 03/10/2018 07:37

amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/03/public-bathrooms-are-gender-identity-battlefields-what-if-we-just-do-it-right?__twitter_impression=true

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hiveofmumsandvillainy · 03/10/2018 08:00

"The public restroom is not only a place to empty one’s bladder or bowel, change a tampon or clothes, wash hands or reapply lippy; it’s an arbiter of gender, with its mostly cisnormative inhabitants to police it."

I couldn't bring myself to read any further.

GoldenWonderwall · 03/10/2018 08:00

“The public restroom is not only a place to empty one’s bladder or bowel, change a tampon or clothes, wash hands or reapply lippy; it’s an arbiter of gender, with its mostly cisnormative inhabitants to police it.”

I believe this says that what public toilet you choose to use is deciding what gender you are and this is then policed by the people inside that toilet? Wtf. I’ve been in the men’s and it’s hardly an oasis of amazing, it’s usually a puddle of piss with a skidmarked lavvy, but I didn’t turn into a man when I stepped through the door.

Also the disabled person is last on the sign that pisses me off. If this was about inclusivity the person with the greatest needs would be placed first, but it’s a man first so you know, working real hard there to break down gender norms aren’t we.

Badstyley · 03/10/2018 08:00

Or they’ll just take the san bins out, that’s what they normally do in that situation. I refer you to those portaloos you get at festivals and events. Most men aren’t interesting in sanitary bins, not needing them like. What they don’t want or need tends to be forgotten about pretty quickly.

Missillusioned · 03/10/2018 07:59

Do all these people who want to open up the ladies toilets to all comers realise that a lot of men use public and works toilets to go for a wank? And that's in the gents, never mind what they plan to do in the ladies.
I was unaware of this until time spent online dating. Unfortunately, some of the pictures I've been sent have enlightened me.

SausageOnAFork · 03/10/2018 07:54

At least if this happens men will see how uncomfortable it is to sit on a loo with a sanibin jammed next to it. They might start designing loos better.

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SmellyHead · 03/10/2018 07:48

*You know if you eat super-super-sweet baklava, you can feel your teeth rotting from the inside?

This article is like that, but for woke.*

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 03/10/2018 07:47

Ah.
That was long.
Simona is apparently 'visibly transfeminine'

'Signing bathrooms by the amenity they provide – rather than the gender they are deemed to be used by – is one great leap towards removing the gender binary from public spaces.'

Surely if a person is taking on a feminine role they will understand that masculine sorts often use stalls for interminable greasy meat-shites whereas dainty ladies tend to have a quick wee or empty a moon cup etc.

I do not see this solution working.

ShotsFired · 03/10/2018 07:45

You know if you eat super-super-sweet baklava, you can feel your teeth rotting from the inside?

This article is like that, but for woke.

FlippinFumin · 03/10/2018 07:45

Cisgender? What the fuck is that even? So we women want to maintain gender roles? Does the writer even know what is happening? Fuck right off. That is as far as I got, blood pressure just cannot take anymore shite.

hackmum · 03/10/2018 07:41

"The common assertion that gender non-conforming people who use bathrooms present a threat to the personal safety of cisgender people is rubbish."

How can you argue with top-notch reasoning like that?

RepealtheGRA · 03/10/2018 07:40

In refuse to click on the guardian. I will wait until the times or mail summarise whatever shite they just published.

TerfedOff · 03/10/2018 07:39

Are you allowed to comment?

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