Duncan Bannatyne gets it

I can think of 5 state schools in a 10 mile radius that have swimming pools that I know of.

Re that 6 year old boy: since when did any women / mothers prevent another mother from bringing her 6 year old child of either sex into the women's changing space? Our space has always been a women and children space because we know it keeps children safe to be with their mums.

That story is fiction, in my opinion.

My kids state primary school has a pool

Pretzels, in my area, some state primaries have pools. Shallow ones.

Also, other primaries take their children at different ages.

If I wanted to be ultra cynical, which of course I’d never be, I’d say preserving the safety, privacy and dignity of females in our brave new world could be very profitable. I suspect however that DB is using common sense and probably doesn’t want to be beset by litigation when brave and stunning women start creating problems in his clubs.

I was thinking last night, in my uncynical way, that a lot of men might see an opportunity to makes lots of money providing single sex provision, at a cost, once we fully enter the warm and fluffy new age of inclusion.

Different when a man speaks out isn't it, really shows up what the TRA's are really targeting.

No 6 year old is trans. What will be meant by that will be a boy who is a bit feminine. And has been told that makes him a girl.

I can't imagine Duncan backing down. But where are the screamingh transactivists to tell him he is transphobic? And making out that the GRA being changed will not affect female only areas?

I've been tweeting away, and thanking Duncan Bannatyne.

I can imagine they might in a school for swimming. When you get changed for swimming you get fully naked so it is different to getting changed for P.E. It's one thing for a mother to take their son into the changing rooms at a public baths, where he is supervised by his parent - but for teachers to OK it may open them up to complaints from the parents of girls. There are lots of things that parents allow their children to do that teachers cannot allow - even though they know full well that the parents would be OK with it - because of risk assessments and the threat of being sued and fired.

But there is more to that story that doesn't make sense.

That 6yo trans girl apparently goes to a school with a pool. 'school pool' is in the tweet. That aint no state school, cupcake. The parents are paying to send their child there - if they have a problem with the way the school is choosing to respect the dignity and privacy of their female pupils ahead of the identity of the trans one - they can vote with their feet. 

If they just meant 'when they go swimming with school' - I've worked in a lot of schools - it is always the year 4s who go swimming. Year 4s are 8/9 years old. If the school is feeling affluent they may also send the y5s (9/10). I suppose it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they might send the year 3s (7/8) though I have never seen it.

But what I have never even heard suggested is sending KS1 pupils swimming. (they have trouble enough getting changed after p.e - imagine trying to get 30 6 year old girls back into their woolly tights when the girls are damp!)

That story is attempting to tug at heart strings - how dare a school put all their girls needs ahead of the one trans pupils needs? But it doesn't add up.

Also at six I don’t believe anyone would physically bar this little boy from changing with the girls.

Of course they wouldn't most pools have a cut off age of 8. This is a post trying to drum up hate.

I imagine Duncan's new wife (?) Is here on these boards and has spoken to him regarding the gym thread here. He's not daft - he's a savvy straight-talking Scottish businessman who knows his market.

Which incidentally where I live is a huge amount of 50+ women who spend hours enjoying a "health centre' and probably don't want to see dicks everywhere when doing 10 gentle lengths and catching up on their copy of cross stitching.

I mean seriously? A trans girl at SIX?? 😡😡😡

Go Duncan!

Just seen this on Twitter.

Ffs 😡

Is he aware of the reaction from adult human females to Ocado?

This is true, I can't imagine blue haired people following Duncan

I imagine he's not got many woke followers, hence no outrage yet.

Good on him for speaking common sense.

He's commented further:

"The proposed law change that was being discussed in my tweet line is a law that would allow any man at any time to declare he represents himself as a woman and therefore must be allowed to use ladies changing room".

So nope, not backing down. Just saying that the system is open to abuse. Which you'd think would not be controversial.

Most comments are positive.

I am clearly more cynical than you. Lots of people don't seem like the type to back down, until they do.
The business case is very clear but there have been plenty of unaccountably bad business decisions made in this whole mess.

Go on, Duncan, prove me wrong!

I've always had a bit of a thing for Duncan Bannatyne, this makes me like him even more

Always struck me as someone who is savvy about how humans operate. Will definitely be a plus for his gyms if women feel safe there

His clubs may also be exposed to a lawsuit if something happened in the changing rooms. Perhaps that’s the way to get the message across - the potential cost if/when the ‘it’ll never happen’ happens.

This

Great. It's nice to see so many men agreeing with him on the thread too. It's just common sense