"First they came for the rapists and I did not speak out because I was not a rapist..."

The cognitive dissonance is actually painful! ‘Misgendering’ is a worse crime than rape

'Allison' didn't actually think that ... I noted upthread that somewhere in the twitter thread, Allison's 'solution' to the problem of allowing TW rapists into women's jails (well, I think actually any rapist into any jail, Allison is consistent in all things) was to kill the rapists. Okaaay.

This reminds me of debating creationism with the sort of person who was so fixated on the literal truth of genesis that they'd cheerfully come up with any manner of morally reprehensible (as well as scientifically bollocks, obv) answers.

I wish that the wider public got to see this shit. The people sitting on buses in Scotland and being confronted with the 'Dear Transphobes' posters, shoving their instinctive concerns down deeper, thinking they're unreasonable. I wish they knew what the pushers of this agenda actually believe and say.

There are a few good replies under that crazy thread -

As long as men are physically larger stronger and more likely to be predators than women, “misgendering” is here to stay.

I've seen that twice, once in the comments of a news article about a trans rapist and once on Tumblr, where they literally said "I'm sorry that happened, but you weren't raped".

When someone shows you who they are, believe them ffs. People who say things like that are terrible human beings.

I saw someone somewhere saying transwomen can't commit rape as rape is about power and women are more privileged than transwomen. So it wasn't rape, it was unconsenting sex.

Not a troll.

Not enough coffee in the world to make head or tail of that Twitter thread.... just too darn early.

Are they outraged because MNHQ allow us to correctly sex convicted rapists?

When did they ever come for the bloody rapists? I'd like to live in a world where they do.

I saw a tweet about this which went something along the lines of " 'first they came for the rapists' - if only they would"

"Trolling or just stupid?" was standard 10 years ago, but both the trolling and the stupid seem to have gotten worse over time.

I wondered why one of my tweets was suddenly getting likes after so long! On reflection I wish I'd never joined this conversation, which must have been a wind up by some sexist idiot who doesn't have the human empathy not to make a joke about rape. They must be a misogynist bastard to find it humorous but I don't think it has any bearing on the debate about trans rights because no rational person can hold these beliefs.

It's increasingly hard to distinguish between real news and parody, genuine (but stupid) people and trolls.

Wow, so that's not a parody account?

Under MN FWR guidelines, we'd get a strike for conflating rapists and trans...

These people are insane.

The cognitive dissonance is actually painful! ‘Misgendering’ is a worse crime than rape. A trans woman is a woman, even if she uses her penis to rape. If we don’t protect vulnerable rapists from the incredible pain of having it pointed out that they used their MALE organ to commit a MALE crime and are MEN, then we are opening the door to Nazism. What the actual fuck. Surely to god this absolute shite must affect the woke leftist no debate bullshit??

AKA "garbage in, garbage out", ie if you start with bad information then don't expect to get an accurate or useful result.

Well yes,that's an excellent way of looking at it. If you start from an erroneous assumption, then even if your logic is thereafter consistent, your conclusion is going to be dead wrong.

Q.E.D.

Yes, it's logically consistent .... once you accept the original batshit proposition that men can beome women

As a scientist, if I ended up with a batshit conclusion, I would go back to the start - with an open mind - and see where I had gone wrong

Well, for what it's worth, the person ready to die on #rapisthill is, indeed, logically consistent. Either everyone can be a woman and needs to be treated as such, if demanded, or there is an objective feature that makes one a women, no matter what one does. Either way, you can't lose womanhood because of some crime you commit.

Of course, I personally could never bring myself to, say, die on #definitivelyprovenpaedochildmurdererhill, when it comes to the death penality, even though I am really, really opposed to the death penalty. I guess, I am not totally consistent in that regard.

'a Thai twat' - do you recommend that with lentils or rice Natural?

Alison also has a porn account, they have a Thai twat allegedly. Lovely. 🤢

Batshit

Ah... while Allison is passionate about not erasing rapists identity by misgendering them, Allison's solution to the problem of TW rapists being put in women's prisons and abusing women there is:

so kill them, prisons don't work anyway

(In a subsequent tweet clarifies that's for being a rapist not for being trans so that's ok...)

With friends like that, TW rapists don't need enemies.

First they came for the rapists, then they came for the paedophiles, then they came for the narcissistic psychopaths with a clear fetish...
And by "they came for" I mean they annoyed the rapists/paedophiles/psychopaths by calling out manipulative lies and using biologically correct pronouns. And eventually these dangerous assholes were stopped from using their newfound way to abuse women/children by pretending to be women...

Still not really seeing the problem here.

Oh come on! Surely, surely the point at which you are passionately defending the rights of rapists over women is the point when some distant chime of disquiet echoes in your skull?
Or is that the reason this is happening? The distant chimes are ringing loud and clear and this is an example of someone desperately trying to drown them out?

I think that if you find yourself saying that you stand with rapists it may be time to reevaluate your life choices.

Sexual violence against women is acceptable collateral damage in my struggle to make everyone pretend I'm a woman.

Right sure, and I bet he'd say he wasn't a misogynist.