Why is the feminism board fair game?

Kr1stina well put.

I read a Prepper thread once, it was terrifying so I avoid them like the (zombie) plague. Am sure the preppers are lovely but I'm not a prepper therefore I don't read the Prepper section.
Simple

Justine Robert's Times' interview in April 2018 about the pressures by trans-right's activists on Mumsnet & her commitment to free and civil speech:

'Mumsnet founder Justine Roberts: Transgender activists try to curb free speech on site'
(extract)
The founder of Mumsnet says transgender “thought police” are pressurising advertisers to withdraw from Britain’s most popular parenting website because it allows the discussion of trans topics.

Justine Roberts said she had been approached by three significant advertisers who had been threatened by trans groups.

“Transgender activists have contacted Mumsnet advertisers and said they will be organising a boycott of their products if they don’t remove their advertising from Mumsnet,” Roberts said.

The website had told the advertisers that it “works hard to keep the discussions civil” and was determined to let them continue.

“What’s worrying to me is the thought-police action around speech and the shutting down of the right to be able to disagree and immediately labelling it as transphobic,” Roberts said." (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-transgender-activists-try-to-curb-free-speech-on-site-z3sr3nf6q?shareToken=b2eb62822dd26aecc0f88653978ed23a

MN AIBU response:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3222471-AIBU-to-be-extremely-proud-of-Justine-Roberts-Mumsnet-right-now

Justine Robert's interview about this with Julia Hartley Brewer and India Willoughby:

Threewheeler1 Ha, thanks! Seriously though, at my husband’s work right now, they’re spending a significant sum persuing something that isn’t working & will not work, but it would be demoralising to those who believe in it to stop it. I’m all for kindness when appropriate, but our society is actually being hindered from achieving things including just having a constructive conversation, because we are overly concerned with whether or not we offend. It has to stop.

I have allergies too, which probably means that these cats are hateful bigots for triggering me.

pennydrew
That was so well said. I like the cut of your jib

I might telling the cat lot that they can fuck off and shut up because I have allergies.

The feminism board is about the concept of critical thinking and thinking about things from a different angle to the one that is dominant in society. That means, sometimes, being challenged or hearing things you don't like.

Not everyone likes that.

Feminists are not necessarily always right. Its important to keep this in mind too. You do not have to agree with every other person.

The point is more about getting people to think in different ways. That can be an uncomfortable experience which forces you to reassess the world you live in from the ground up.

Thats a healthy process in our lives and society. Its true of all politics.

Important thread collating the systemic failings / failure of Child Protection and Safeguarding:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3301266-Safeguarding-girls-and-protecting-women-post-Jimmy-Saville-metoo

Questions, concerns and comments for Penny Mordant MP Minister of Women & Equalities:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3297184-Your-comments-for-Penny-Mordaunt

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3297067-Mumsnet-moderation-response-to-yesterdays-feedback

Feminism can be as uncomfortable for women as it is for men. It makes you question your own attitudes, your own family. Of course it’s going to put backs up. The suffragettes are celebrated now that they’re safely dead but they were reviled at the time.

LittleMissedTheSunshine I’ve been a lurker a long time and only started interacting last week. I have never seen anything that you speak of. I have seen disingenuous comments or women saying very anti-woman things being challenged. I’ve been challenged here, doesn’t make me scared to participate. I’m an adult. I am also quite tired of tone policing. Some people speak bluntly, curtly, that’s ok. We should reconsider our entitlement to emotional labour of others when it comes to conversing. I don’t want people wasting time and energy tiptoeing around me because I’m new here. Straight to the point, accurate, factual conversations, are a real rarity and I like these boards for that reason.

I love the FWR boards but if you don't, then the answer is quite simple, don't read them.
I don't understand how much of a hair trigger you'd have to have to get annoyed by scrolling past a few thread titles, threads that you don't have to engage with.
It seems ironic that in one of the few places we can actually discuss the impact on women of changes to the GRA we have posters who object even to the discussion.
It's a broad and fast moving subject, constantly evolving with the speed of the TRA tactics for silencing women, so it's going to generate lots of threads updating women on the situation.
The more we are able to speak and share, the clearer and stronger we get.
I'm not on SM of any kind so this is the place I come to daily for new information.
Thanks to all of you who put in so much effort and trawl through so much shit to keep us informed. I don't always comment but I do always read and I'm grateful.

The Feminism board is where you find out the truth about how hated women are so some women/men need to hide it and critise it because if they didn't they might have to face up to the TRUTH and take the blinkers off. Mind you saying that if you really want to see pure hatred of women dip a toe into twitter, that place is horrific.

I've seen someone post on the feminism board who is not aware of current issues, and rather than use this as an opportunity to educate, some of the more regular posters have eaten them alive! God forbid if they are actually a man as well!

I'm not afraid to go against the grain on these boards, and don't really care if I get a flaming but other people do, it can be a harsh board if you don't agree with the majority of posters.

Also I think some of the more regular posters can come across as slightly intimidating, lurkers can feel like they aren't as clever or knowledgable and this can put them off posting but it's not the board of the long timers or self declared feminists, it's everyone's board.

I lurked for ages before I felt comfortable posting, I've been slated for saying my daughter likes pink and sparkly things which quite frankly should be the least of our collective troubles at the current time.

People on AIBU calling FWR vile? Oh the irony...

Some women care a great deal about impressing men. They are worried that caring about the rights of other women will make men not like them.

So they have to make A Big Thing about hating feminists, in case they get contaminated by association.

Whereas most people who don’t like prepping or chicken keeping manage to just not click on the threads on these boards. It’s not hard. I’ve been here for 15 years and have never read a single thread on the Litter Tray .

I’m a genius.

It's the social media version of putting your fingers in your ears, shutting your eyes and saying "la la la la la la la la..."

Sorry @GoldenWonderwall I don't understand what you mean.

Yup galvantula - Leningrad called us the millwall of mumsnet in about 2011

I take it back - perhaps I’m one of the posters that’s ‘extremely sneery’ and now someone has been mean to me Maybe I’ll just assume they’re being mean to me and take massive offence anyway! No sense of humour some people.

I've just quickly counted on the feminism board and there are at least 20 threads about trans issues.
It's an important issue but I think for many women it doesn't affect them as much as being in a low paid job, DV, cuts to services etc.
Do you think Feminism needs more women to become involved?

Also, we are all adults. This whole, I’m too scared to go on that board because of the nasty women, is emotionally manipulative BS.

It’s always been this way with regards to feminism, it wouldn’t matter what the focus of the majority of the threads was. There are always women that complain about feminism or how others are doing feminism. Always. They’re entitled to their opinions, and we are all entitled to ours.

I think many of the responses on this thread are why many on MN don't want to come on the feminism boards.
This thread is extremely sneery.

The Feminism board does feminism a disservice by alienating women.

Having brought my children up, and being fairly settled in life, I thought that feminism had nothing left to fight for apart from equal pay in some areas - areas I wasn't involved in. I thought things had become so much better for women in general. It's been a horrible shock to read the FWR boards and see the absolute fucking assault on women that's happening right now, where we're not allowed to use the word women in case we offend somebody somewhere. Everything to do with our actual physical identity has become unmentionable if it's used with the word woman.

WTAF? Things are ten times worse than when I was a teenager. I'm not particularly articulate, and have never been able to wade through books on feminist theory, but I fucking know when I'm being shat on from a height.

pickle just contribute! It’s not scary at all. Look at my posts on this very thread - are they groundbreaking or steeped in feminist history? Was anyone mean to me? No and no. If you have something you’d like to say they share it

sd if something has been discussed in depth and at length and there’s recent threads about it, perhaps you will get snippy replies or none at all if you try to start from the beginning again. You may (or may not) have noticed that a tactic to take up people’s time and energy is to repeatedly ask faux naive questions. One woman’s snippy is another one’s to the point though and I doubt it’s as snippy as ‘odfod’ you get in aibu