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Who can I vote for?

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ParisProperty · 02/10/2018 19:17

If there is an election?
Is there a party I can join?
Does anybody read spoiled ballot papers?
I feel disenfranchised.
Might as well not have a vote.Sad

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LassWiADelicateAir · 03/10/2018 13:39

Corbyn is still worst choice

3TresTrois · 03/10/2018 09:51

Corbyn or Boris

What a choice!

3TresTrois · 03/10/2018 09:50

I resigned my membership over self ID. Yes.
I don’t feel that Labour represents me as a gender critical woman and that is a HUGE issue for me, my daughter, all women.

I don’t know what to do about voting. That’s the point if this thread, isn’t it?

Angryresister · 03/10/2018 05:42

In Spain you can have a blank voting paper which means it gets counted as none of the candidates get your vote. there should be some way in UK for counting those that no longer have any faith in any of the parties.

ToeToToe · 03/10/2018 00:35

Boris or Theresa May?

Corbyn or Theresa May?

Corbyn or Boris? Shock

ToeToToe · 03/10/2018 00:34

Lass - I know that. A lot of spoiled votes might raise eyebrows though. But probably not. Hey ho. Perhaps I'll go and live in Hawaii instead.

Randomusername01 · 03/10/2018 00:25

Is this an issue that mainly affects labour supporters? I can't vote because corbyn/self id/Can't bring myself to vote Tory? Never read Tory voters saying the same, usually if anything it's 'Can't stand Theresa May but would rather vote for her than let labour into power". Tory voters must think this not voting as Xmas come early.

LassWiADelicateAir · 03/10/2018 00:25

Sorry Lass, that sounded shitty to you, it's the situation I find shitty

No worries. We were slightly at cross purposes. A spoiled ballot paper is counted but it counts for nothing.

silentcrow · 03/10/2018 00:24

Having done vote counting for local elections in the dim and distant, it's not worth spoiling a ballot. Nobody notices beyond dropping it in a pile for the report. The pressure to count accurately and quickly is too great to do anything but smirk at the odd crudely drawn cock and balls. There's always one.

I'm as homeless as the rest of you but I haven't written off either candidate yet (smaller parties get nowhere here)...I'll need to do a lot more research next time round.

ToeToToe · 03/10/2018 00:15

Sorry Lass, that sounded shitty to you, it's the situation I find shitty.

Never thought in 2018 I'd have no party to represent my views at all. Not even the WEP.

Between Brexit, self ID and Momentum/Corbyn/Gulag party - I just don't.

RedToothBrush · 03/10/2018 00:08

If you feel disenfranchised start whinging about it. Write to local councillors. Take this grass roots. Many grass roots people of all parties don't understand this.

Make them.

Doing stuff with the central parties has been done. I think next step is to take stuff local.

ToeToToe · 03/10/2018 00:07

I have nobody to fucking vote for, that's what.

LassWiADelicateAir · 03/10/2018 00:05

But so what?

ToeToToe · 03/10/2018 00:02

Yes, that's what I meant. The number is read out.

LassWiADelicateAir · 02/10/2018 23:58

Spoiled ballots may not be read, but they are counted aren't they?

Only in the sense that say 40,000 papers were issued and 20 were spoiled. The returning officer has to announce the numbers of spoiled papers.

ToeToToe · 02/10/2018 23:53

Spoiled ballots may not be read, but they are counted aren't they?

I'd spoil a ballot rather than just not vote.

Write something like "None of the above - No Self ID"

madeoficecream · 02/10/2018 23:51

Im voting Labour. I dont support self ID but I dont trust the tories at all. They might not pander to trans activists but they certainly dont have womens interests at heart either...
I dont realistically see anyone else getting in...
So as I agree with Labour more than the Tories I will be voting for Labour.

I would never not vote nor spoil my ballot paper.... I think that achieves nothing.

I do not want to face Brexit with a Conservative government.

Turph · 02/10/2018 23:47

Are you serious???? You are voting based on self ID! There are some far more pressing issues to base your vote on
Are you scared? Single issue voters willing to vote for whoever supports them are the quickest way to get things changed.
I'm not sure all the posters here will follow through with it, I have a feeling several (not just on this thread) will talk themselves into voting for their usual party. Me I'll vote for a GC candidate only. If there isn't one I'll spoil my paper.

ToeToToe · 02/10/2018 23:45

I have nobody to vote for.

I was always a labour voter, up to the last election. Really concerned with the direction Momentum is going though. Very far left, and almost totalitarian. They scare me with their "Dear Leader" attitude. I no longer think Corbyn would be a good PM. In fact, I think he would be disastrous.

Can't think of anyone else I'd vote for right now- but if the tories reversed their direction on Self ID, I'd vote for Theresa May.

theOtherPamAyres · 02/10/2018 23:43

You are voting based on self ID!

No, I'm not. I'm protesting about the dismissal of women's voices.

I prefer to judge parties on what they do rather than what they say on things like - pay gaps, child care, elderly care, education, war, peace, air quality, climate change, safeguarding children, justice, crime, employment, welfare, poverty.

None of the parties have all the answers that are consistent with my values. But then, none of them think that my opinion is of any value whatsoever. With the Equality Act loopholes and the reform of the GRA, they have shown what they think of me. It's personal.

It may not have the same shock-value as the unexpected Brexit vote, but a campaign of protest and 'wasted votes' might just make politicians reflect on the importance of 50% of the electorate.

BeUpStanding · 02/10/2018 23:41

Yes I would base my vote on this single issue, it is that important. (If you think its only about toilet cubicles, then either you have spent zero time reading this board, or you're an idiot.)

Currently there is no party I can vote for. No idea what I would do if a snap election was called tomorrow.

We need a Standing for Women party!

Hideandgo · 02/10/2018 23:22

Are you serious???? You are voting based on self ID! There are some far more pressing issues to base your vote on but no, its more important to make sure those trans people don’t get to pee in a cubicle beside you.

You seriously think that is the biggest crisis to tackle right now? Over cuts to health services, disabled people being left with nothing, families starving.....

theOtherPamAyres · 02/10/2018 23:16

I think that a co-ordinated campaign, to write the same message on the ballot paper, across the country, would be a defiant political gesture. If enough people did it.

Local elections are coming up in 2019. Low turn-outs expected. Suppose a great swathe of people, mostly women, boosted the turn out - but wrote something on the ballot paper, instead of voting.

There's not much room, so the slogan would have to be short.

collieflowers · 02/10/2018 23:11

I've always said if you don't vote, you can't complain, but I've never been in the situation where I disagree with every party.

LassWiADelicateAir · 02/10/2018 22:55

Maybe there's not much point in spoiling the ballot if no one looks

There is no point in spoiling your ballot paper except for your own personal satisfaction.

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