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It's like a pincer attack

94 replies

Charliethefeminist · 02/10/2018 17:37

boys who are distracted by knee length skirts and opaque tights need to sit the fuck back

Men in our spaces
Men policing our clothes

Men silencing our objections
Men trying to criminalise self defence

LEAVE WOMEN AND GIRLS ALONE

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AssassinatedBeauty · 02/10/2018 19:06

They have tried to comply! And are being told that none of the actual uniform skirts are suitable. The chosen pleated monstrosity is a joke and is also see through! What are they actually supposed to wear?

Yes, they're doing their GCSEs but the school has potentially done horrendous damage to their self esteem and confidence. The parents are in a really difficult position here.

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 19:06

Jesus fucking Christ. They just look like girls.

I'm not a fan of school uniforms at the best of times but all this nitpicking - and it's almost always girls, and almost always sexist - drives me up the wall. They'll be at work soon enough with all the endless crap that entails.

Purpleartichoke · 02/10/2018 19:03

When school officials try to police girls bodies, my protection instincts instantly group those officials in the same category as I would group a suspected pedophile. There is just something so unbelievably creepy about this behavior.

Didactylos · 02/10/2018 19:03

The girls look fine!
Honi soit qui mal y pense

TeenTimesTwo · 02/10/2018 19:03

I have to question the recall of any student/parent who is willing for their y10 to miss so much school just to make a point about uniform though, when
a) complaint is about what someone reportedly said
b) other students are clearly managing to comply (and these girls do not have an unusual body shape)

Surely it would be better to comply with rules and take up the complaint in parallel?

bluetitsaretits · 02/10/2018 19:00

No wonder our society is becoming an idiocracy if this is the level of intelligence in school teachers:

-mental health is at an all time low, especially amongst teenage girls
-girls are under constant scrutiny
-girls are constantly made to feel they're not good enough
-girls are struggling in a highly sexualised society that ignores their feelings
-girls are responsible for the behaviour of boys

Teachers should be supporting them to transcend this, not adding to the bloody problem!

If it isn't stupidity it's something much worse.

AssassinatedBeauty · 02/10/2018 18:57

I should imagine the school were very careful when drafting the letter not to make any specific statements like that, in order to avoid being held to account for it. It's easy just to refer to uniform guidelines and not to refer to what was said verbally to the students/parents. It's easy to deny that was what was said, to claim misunderstanding.

TeenTimesTwo · 02/10/2018 18:55

The school is in my area.

I can't actually see anywhere in the letter where it says the skirts were 'distracting' just that they didn't meet uniform requirements?

Their webpage says they have guidelines on uniform, though I can't see them so they may be in their planners or somewhere else.
These girls are 'normal' teenagers. They aren't massively overweight or anything. I don't see how all the other girls are finding skirts that meet requirements and not these two.

My guess is that there is something in the guidelines (e.g. not figure hugging, and no more than x inches above the knee) that the girls aren't meeting.

Personally I think they look fine, but I suspect there is more to this than the DM has reported.

OpalIridescence · 02/10/2018 18:51

Where is the headteacher in all of this?

Noqont · 02/10/2018 18:49

That is outrageous. The only problem in this story is that head teacher paying way too much attention to those girls bodies. Seriously he should not be in that job.

OpalIridescence · 02/10/2018 18:47

Fgs, I couldn't believe what I was reading there.

Those poor girls, being isolated, and humiliated for what? Being rude? Agressive? No, for owning female bodies.

That deputy is an absolute tosser! Going shopping for skirts, making the girls try on skirts for their teachers? It's as though he thinks he owns them.

Thank god the parents stood up for them but I wish they could have shoved the 'special lamented skirt ruler' where the sun don't shine.

Lettera · 02/10/2018 18:45

I'm furious on behalf of these girls.

Isn't this EXACTLY the kind of crap to make girls hate their perfectly normal developing bodies? And where might that lead, one wonders?

FermatsTheorem · 02/10/2018 18:44

They look very smart and parents if you are reading , what smart well presented young ladies you have. And well done for having their backs!!

Seconding this!

FermatsTheorem · 02/10/2018 18:43

Upstart has it with Fucknuggeting cockwombles.

If you're that worried, Mr. Veal, how about teaching the boys to stop perving? (And maybe have a think about your own motives while you're at it...)

Gileswithachainsaw · 02/10/2018 18:41

Maybe burkhas would do the trick?

I think it's becoming clearee every single day that girls are no longer welcome in schools. They are nothing but distractions, even regulation clothes are all "wrong" boys are let off everything they do to them. And even periods need medicating so they don't go all female on the teachers arse and need the fucking toilet.

If it wasn't for the fact that many pull their grade averages up and if they didn't have a girl to shove between the boys who would kill eachother on contact they'd be fucked I expect they'd have banned them a long time ago Hmm

They look very smart and parents if you are reading , what smart well presented young ladies you have. And well done for having their backs!!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 18:39

Hounsdown School’s headteacher Julie Turvey and deputy David Veal.

Are the people responsible for calling teenage girls inappropriate for existing while female.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 02/10/2018 18:32

This is outrageous. I'm raging. Two girls have their confidence destroyed by their school for having dared go through puberty and developed womanly bodies. Now the poor humiliated girls feel "fat" - a totally predictable outcome. Angry

Things are actively getting worse for women. It's very concerning. Sad

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 02/10/2018 18:25

Maybe burkhas would do the trick?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 02/10/2018 18:23

bloody hell

doesn't look like the school are going to back down either

punishing girls for turning into women

nice

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 02/10/2018 18:21

I agree with NothingOnTellyAgain

It's nothing to do with the clothes, it's their bodies.

They are a couple of normal looking 15 year olds in school uniform.

Datun · 02/10/2018 18:19

I don’t know where to start with that tbh. No wonder girls want to opt out of girlhood.

Yes! And this is how it happens. The girls will be encouraged to identify as boys, and wear trousers. That way the male staff/pupils might be able to tear their eyes off them.

Gileswithachainsaw · 02/10/2018 18:17

Garuntee they will have the same problem with trousers too. Having a bum will automatically mean any they buy will be "too tight" and anyone who swims or does rugby and has the leg muscles that go with it will be accused of wearing skinny trousers

The fact they tried on 8 and still no joy must have proven to some extent that the problem wasn't the girls and their healthy perfectly normal bodies

Datun · 02/10/2018 18:17

A dreadful school teaching girls that their developing bodies are responsible for the inappropriate or possibly criminal behaviour of lascivious men.

Yes, teach them early, that men's actions are their fault. And give them a skirt down to their ankles in a vain attempt to civilise the staff.

The misogyny is absolutely breathtaking. If I were those girls or that parent I would be going nuts.

Hounsdown School’s headteacher Julie Turvey and deputy David Veal.

Hounsdown School’s headteacher Julie Turvey and deputy David Veal

Hounsdown School’s headteacher Julie Turvey and deputy David Veal

OvaHere · 02/10/2018 18:13

What makes this twice as sad is through no fault of their own these girls have now missed 2 weeks of school. At age 15 they will be on their GCSE pathway and missing valuable lesson time. They lose out all around.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 02/10/2018 18:10

Omg. Speechless.

I don’t know where to start with that tbh. No wonder girls want to opt out of girlhood.