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Herald article raising concerns about transgender rights movement

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SylvanianFrenemies · 01/10/2018 19:52

Here: www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/16911183.stuart-waiton-why-is-the-state-pushing-harmful-transgender-agenda/#comments-anchor

I can't read it all as I've had my free article allowance this month, but it looks promising. Comments section is 50/50 despair/heartening

The Herald is one of Scotland's main broadsheets.

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TheCuriousMonkey · 02/10/2018 07:53

Great article, but the comments really made it. Charlie was awesome. Covered just about all the issues in a clear, accurate yet concise way. I wish I was able to do that.

If Charlie isn't a mumsnetter she bloody well should be.

scepticalwoman · 02/10/2018 07:45

Charlie is an amazing articulate woman!

MissDai5y · 02/10/2018 07:36

Thank you for posting this. The article was interesting, the comments section was amazing.

Not gonna lie, in awe of Charlie.

Igneococcus · 02/10/2018 07:29

Other side. I might tackle him when I get a chance on Thursday. I might never get invited to that sort of event again in future which I wouldn't be too sad about.

Xiaoxiong · 02/10/2018 07:22

Igneo is the person you know gender critical? Or the other side?

Igneococcus · 02/10/2018 07:21

Yes, Charlie is fab.

MadamBatty · 02/10/2018 07:21

Great work Charlie, half expecting posters to pop up her & say ‘I am Charlie’

Is it ok to say I identify as Charlie?

Xiaoxiong · 02/10/2018 07:21

Charlie you are amazing. Absolute legend. It must be frustrating that you listed so much devastating evidence and they never came back to engage but I'm imagining them sitting there starting a response...deleting it...starting one again...deleting it because there can be no comeback to actual evidence.

Igneococcus · 02/10/2018 07:21

I know someone in the comments, eeeek, he might even be at something work-related this week.

Thisimmortalcurl · 02/10/2018 07:21

Great article and wow Charlie ... amazing !

WineGummyBear · 02/10/2018 07:14

Wow- Go Charlie!

deepwatersolo · 02/10/2018 06:44

Just because it came up in the article: I believe the TRAs have so much Support in their political parties because quite a few white male members are closeted autogynephile ceossdressers and some are paedos, and they now see an opening to turn their paraphilia into an asset and - despite their white maleness - win the oppression olympics in politics.

IdaBWells · 02/10/2018 06:26

Excellent job Charlie! Thank you for defending us all!!

QuaterMiss · 02/10/2018 06:00

the fetishisation of difference

and

the confused and intolerant cult of diversity.

Brilliantly put in the article.

But yes, outstanding effort by Charlie in the comments.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 02/10/2018 05:39

Yes, that bloke repeatedly asking for evidence, then ignoring it when supplied. Very much like the agents provocateur we get on here from time to time

NotNachoing · 02/10/2018 05:37

Also loved Charlie's comments. Interesting that nobody could actually provide any actual counter to them. Wonder why...?

I agree with the pp who recognised the time and energy involved in writing those comments. Thanks Charlie.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 02/10/2018 05:35

Charlie - I am in awe. Well done!

Bowlofbabelfish · 02/10/2018 04:37

Go Charlie! Brilliant comments :)

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/10/2018 03:54

Sorry, don't know what happened to the end bit there!

...they will use this weakening and blurring to further push their own agenda.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/10/2018 03:53

Charlie Noack deserves a medal of honour for her clarity in laying out the problems, the stats, and her refusal to bow to the nay-sayers and down-shouters.

So impressed to read that.

In answer to "why is the state pushing this?" I would like to post this again - threadreaderapp.com/thread/991258039511670784.html

  • it is a very interesting and enlightening article, but the important bit is to be found where they discuss promoting other minority interests in schools: it's an exact description of how the trans agenda is being pushed in schools.
Note that this article is about a paedophiles' manifesto. I am NOT saying that all trans are paedos, that's rubbish. I AM saying that there is a good chance that PIE and similar are involved in pushing the TRA agenda, because it will weaken and blur the lines that currently exist to protect women and children (specifically children) from predators, and that they will use this weakening and blurring to fui
CharlieParley · 02/10/2018 00:16
Wink
concretesieve · 01/10/2018 23:55

Charlie !!! Flowers Flowers Flowers

terryleather · 01/10/2018 23:42

Stuart Waiton was one of the speakers at the Glasgow We Need To Talk meeting earlier in the year, I thought what he had to say was interesting.
Am I right in thinking he's also very critical of the proposed Named Person legislation?
Sadly not surprised by that vagender

vagender · 01/10/2018 23:34

The author of the article is a lecturer at a Scottish university, and their LGBT society is already filing an official complaint and has started a petition for a “zero tolerance” policy towards hate speech. Holy shit.

heresyandwitchcraft · 01/10/2018 23:28

Charlie Gin and Wine
Fantastic work in the comments. Persuasive, persistent and crystal-clear.

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