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Leeds / West Yorkshire and injustices against women

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breastfeedingclownfish · 01/10/2018 08:59

Time and time again, injustices and crimes against women and girls occur in Leeds and West Yorkshire.

Can we compile a list here? Obviously there's Saville and Mesmac, the enabling of prostitution on the streets, West Yorkshire Police going after Posie. And Rotherham.

Leeds is also the home of Mermaids, and it was Susie Green who made the complaint about Posie to West Yorkshire police, for being 'deliberately truthful' about Susie travelling to Thailand in order for her 16 years old child to have sexual reassignment surgery.

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RachelBosenterfer · 18/07/2019 05:53

Sally Hines, arguably the main academic promoter of the trans movement in the UK, is at University of Leeds.
herriotts.wordpress.com/2018/10/13/the-usual-suspects-sally-hines/

reetgood · 19/10/2018 23:40

Umm do any of you actually live in Leeds?

Wyp are poor when it comes to women, track record not great. But I’m not sure the rest is particularly different to any other city?

Leeds originated the Reclaim the Night movement, there’s a variety of excellent orgs in the city working to support women. It’s a bit more complex of a picture than a google search.

If this thread was retitled ‘West Yorkshire police and their inglorious history re women’ I’d be all in agreement.

Zeugma · 19/10/2018 23:29

I listened to today's reports in utter horror, too.

You don't have to look very hard to find reports like this (I take issue with the headline's phrasing btw; totally unacceptable) :

www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/former-west-yorkshire-police-detective-s-child-porn-shame-1-4712857

Or this:

Yet another former WYP officer accessing images of child abuse

WTF is going on?

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2018 19:45

Home Secretary between 2007 and 2009. Unbelievable!

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2018 19:44

It was Jackie Smith!

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2018 19:43

Who was Home Secretary in 2008? Apparently police forces were sent info which stated girls such as these, were to be treated as if they were actively engaging in this stuff. Angry

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TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 19/10/2018 17:54

OK, bear with me on this. Ever since civil rights rocketed up the agenda in the 60s, the police have been on the back foot trying to react to the general public's changes in attitudes to all sorts of things like homophobia and racism. Eventually that translated into getting equality and diversity training. It clearly isn't being very well delivered or understood. Would I be right in assuming that the police were told they should respect other people's cultural sensitivities and this somehow translated into 'If these men were white we'd be thinking about prosecution but this is probably normal where they come from and anyway how could we put these kids in the witness box? Nah. Let's concentrate on car theft'.

Social services don't seem to have been any better. These girls weren't important enough for anybody to rock the boat.

All comes back to misogyny.

hackmum · 19/10/2018 17:47

I heard the PM report too. Girls repeatedly reported the crimes to the police and the police did nothing. Absolutely nothing. Sometimes the girls were abandoned on the moors if they refused to have sex, and the farmer who sometimes rescued them also reported the crimes to the police.

Not only did the police do sweet FA, they told at least one girl that it was her fault and she "wanted" it.

West Yorkshire Police are complicit in these crimes. They are as guilty as the men who committed them. The officers responsible should be in jail. The most misogynistic police force in Britain. How utterly vile.

terryleather · 19/10/2018 17:46

I was listening Lizzie , the bit about the farmer finding the girls "dumped" on the moors made my blood run cold.

The report was pretty scathing of WYP and their role in this, especially wrt how they dealt with the girls.

I wish I could say I was shocked but I'm not, just sickened that once again a group of young women have been subject to horrendous abuse, shat on by the authorities and hardly anyone with power appears to have given a fuck.

ImPreCis · 19/10/2018 17:46

Also the MP (I think) who said he had been talking about this for 10 years, and he couldn’t get anyone interested. No broadcaster or news co would touch it. He told them they would have parliamentary privilege, but nothing.

Is this reminding anyone of anything, slightly more recent?

Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 17:34

And yet happily trotted down to see Posie and stayed over night.

scepticalwoman · 19/10/2018 17:33

www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

7 year reign of terror in West Yorkshire. I wonder what the WY police were so busy doing that they couldn't find the time to tackle this Hmm

HelenaDove · 19/10/2018 17:31

Did anyone see this bloke with Laura Bates on Channel 4 news last night

Full of excuses.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398812-Laura-Bates-and-chair-of-West-Mids-Police-Federation-on-Channel-4-news-Should-misogyny-be-a-hate-crime

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2018 17:28

Did anyone listen to BBC PM, horrifying! A Farmer reported finding these poor girls on the moors, he reported this to the police and they did nothing.

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2018 17:26

All these horrific examples Sad

They seem to hate women and girls.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 19/10/2018 17:26

Those poor girls and their families. They were so young, and so much younger than their abusers - how could anybody feel they were in any way responsible for what happened to them?

LizzieSiddal · 19/10/2018 17:25

Stephanie Hayden reported Graham Linehan to West Yorkshire Police, despite not living there. I wonder why they chose that particular Police Force? Graham was given a 'verbal harassment warning'.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/father-ted-creator-twitter-transphobia-row-graham-linehan-stephanie-hayden-a8573451.html

Ekphrasis · 19/10/2018 17:18

Yes I'm listening to this and just so horrified.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 19/10/2018 17:06

Well, here's another one. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845 Dreadful case of sexual abuse of young girls in Huddersfield. Families and community members reported it to WYP repeatedly but no action was taken for years.

OriginalBluestocking · 02/10/2018 23:10

WPUK meeting was cancelled on the say-so of five men, the signatories to this letter. Joni Clarke is in the Sociology Dept at Leeds Uni, where Sally Hines is a professor. Hines has made a career out of trans stuff (transpregnancy.leeds.ac.uk/profiles/sally-hines/).

Leeds / West Yorkshire and injustices against women
Popchyk · 02/10/2018 14:13

Esmee Fairbairn Foundation coming up a lot recently.

2017 annual accounts report

115K to Gendered Intelligence
97K to Mesmac

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 13:57

Julia Hartley Brewer interviewed a Yorkshire police comissioner about 'hate crime' recently. Discusses actual crimes not investigated.

'South Yorkshire Police are encouraging people to report non-criminal hate. What is it and do the police have the right to know? Watch the full debate between Julia Hartley-Brewer and South Yorkshire's Police & Crime Commissioner Dr Alan Billings.'

BigChocFrenzy · 02/10/2018 10:39

West Yorkshire Police have been active women-haters for decades
So many scandals and never anything done

They've just learned better bullshit so they can continue actively hating women

It is institututional and gets passed on automatically to new coppers.

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 10:16

Thanks Popchyk I couldn't remember the exact details

The Blast project featured recently on a thread talking about Esmee Fairbairn foundation:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3373829-guides-twitter?pg=3

p21 Yorkshire Mesmac is recipient of one of the grants:
Towards the salary of the project
co-ordinator and costs of BLAST, a
project supporting boys and young
men affected by child sexual
exploitation.

Discussion about nature of grants also awarded to Girl Guides, Gendered Intelligence, Trans Media Action, Women in Prisons