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Lurkers of FWR, pop in and say Hi!

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SophoclesTheFox · 30/09/2018 08:36

I've just been reading this thread and I am utterly blown away by the number of women who say they are lurking here.

It's quite, quite wonderful to read that thread and I wanted to acknowledge it and roll out the red carpet if any of you wanted to post. I know it can feel a bit intimidating, like you have to have the right vocabulary, or some huge knowledge of feminist theory, but you don't.

Your words are valuable, and your unique view is important because together we're powerful!

We're also rude, funny, and most of all DISRESPECTFUL in all the ways that matter. Don't just lurk: join in Grin you are very welcome.

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beltanelove · 30/09/2018 19:20

I’m a happy lurker! For the past year. I get a sense of belonging from what I read here. I also have the confidence now to share my stance on issues such as sex work, pornography and self ID, with folk in real life. You’ve all opened my eyes to so much and helped me get my thoughts clearer.

arranfan · 30/09/2018 19:20

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@uncomfortablydumb
Also, where can you get a Posie t-shirt?

Catmint · 30/09/2018 19:17

< waves @uncomfortablydumb > Wink

uncomfortablydumb · 30/09/2018 19:12

I'm a lurker. I didn't see the previous thread, but am briefly delurking to salute and thank you all. This section is so immensely important and valuable beyond measure. Especially in these scary times.

I don't post here, but I am learning, and I'm trying to effect change in my own little corner of the world. Woefully badly as I am just not articulate enough to be persuasive, and probably just look like a bit of a twat but I do signpost to better people an awful lot.

I'm also very grateful for a small group of women that I met via MN, and we talk about FWR a fair amount these days

Also, where can you get a Posie tshirt?

traceyracer · 30/09/2018 19:04

Hi. another lurker over here!

LangCleg · 30/09/2018 19:02

And don't be afraid to post! So what if you get your arse handed to you on one thread? You can hand someone else theirs on another! The most important thing about this forum is that women can speak.

LangCleg · 30/09/2018 19:00

Hi, thanks for the invite to post. I may not post again. I'm an academic in the USA and this is a forum for British mums so I wouldn't want to impose.

Please stay! Your perspective could have something to teach us!

ElephantShrew · 30/09/2018 18:58

I've lurked on the FWR board regularly for a few months now - gone from default trans-rights sympathiser to increasingly angry and mindboggled by what I've read.

Thank you to everyone on this board for keeping on posting and repeating yourselves so patiently - haven't yet felt I'm sufficiently up to speed to post but I'm now at the point where I'm discussing this among groups of trusted friends, most of whom are similarly horrified when they realise what's going on. None of us would have been any the wiser without your posts.

Meet0nTheIedge · 30/09/2018 18:43

I've been lurking on and off for years. Mostly on nowadays, I have a quick look through most active and then into here. I rarely post because others have usually said what I want to say already, I also find I can't always find the right words. But I have learned so much from these boards, have read so many articles linked here, am starting to be able to articulate my views in real life, am quietly signing petitions etc. Thank you all.

WaverleyOwl · 30/09/2018 18:43

I'm an occasional MN poster, but I lurk here every day to keep up to date with all the GC stuff I need to know. Also lurk on r/GenderCritical for more common sense. And delve into Twitter when I feel I can cope with the sheer idiocy of the TRA lot. Have an anonymous account to keep up to date with stuff.

RedToothBrush · 30/09/2018 18:33

wondering how I can spread the word.

Just keep talking. To whoever. Whenever.

Don't underestimate how normalising conversation about certain topics breaks the taboo and brings down walls. You don't need to shout about it on the internet to the whole world. Yes that helps, but confiding / telling a trusted friend has value and importance too.

I find that what I want to say has already been said better by another poster.

Sometimes, just acknowledging the comment by agreeing is useful. It makes people realise they are saying something useful. It helps them have a bit of comfort, reassurance and confidence in why they say.

It works for regulars and new comers alike.

Again don't undervalue how this is a positive contribution. Obviously if there's loads of people doing it for the same post, its less useful but if you spot something that resonances that no one else has picked up on, its a good thing.

HeyBells · 30/09/2018 18:24

I've been lurking since my attention was caught by the Spartacus threads, I've posted once or twice! It's been fascinating seeing how thoughts have developed over the years. I've been to a couple of WPUK meetings, which were great. Many thanks to all the fantastic posters on the FWR threads.

I have a trans parent and a job in public services, which makes it difficult to talk about in any way on social media and irl.

GulagsMyArse · 30/09/2018 18:24

I’m a binge lurker, I come out of the woodwork and post a lot , feel like a bit of a fool, and return to the lurkiness. I’m fairly new to MN. Only here since May.

Amazing, place. Thank you 😊 to all the women here.
I gave FPFW leaflets to 4 family members today. All peaked!

lydiamajora · 30/09/2018 18:22

Sophocles: And for those who feel they're not heard: well, I think this thread is the living proof that that may not be true. People may not namecheck you, they may not quote you, but you can be sure that someone sitting behind a keyboard somewhere is nodding along because you've said it the way that they did.

YES! This is something that needs to be said. It's not like speaking in person, where one's comment can be talked over and simply dissipate into the wind. Words on the internet remain long after you hit "post", and people who were not around to read initially will still be able to hear what you have to say. Hell, you may even end up in someone's recorded-for-posterity folder where I some weirdo keeps entire threads saved as PDFs for when this madness is over and there are people trying to make feminists the scapegoat.

Also, with as many prolific users on this board being banned for defending a GC position, the lurkers are going to need to step up keep the fires burning. For every thebewilderness who gets kicked from FWR, there are ten silent watchers who can speak up and fill the void.

SophoclesTheFox · 30/09/2018 18:17

Please do FWRlurker. I'm not a mum either and never will be, and when I first started here I was living outside the UK. Obviously I have the hide of a rhino cause I just charged right in Grin

I am interested in hearing all perspectives on this. I do worry that I might be living in a bubble and I want not to, and the way out of the bubble is to hear other people's perspectives.

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imstartingtobemenow · 30/09/2018 18:16

Hi me too, started really reading threads just 3 or so weeks ago, I was curious how these threads seemed to be showing more and more. Last week was a sudden whoosh in my understanding for me, watched Posie vs Harrop on YouTube, tuned in especially to watch This Morning stitch up live, climaxing in me shouting at the telly over the Kavanagh business. Fuckers I am so angry about that. Anyway, big thank you, i am inspired, reading avidly every day, wondering how I can spread the word.

Alternativefacts · 30/09/2018 18:13

Mostly lurk. Occasionally post. Finally decided just now it and shared WPUK post on my Facebook page, A tiny step, I know, especially compared to those who have been speaking out for months/ years on this issue, but still a step in the right directio. Doubt it will get any response but still.

FWRLurker · 30/09/2018 18:12

RedToothBrush and Keeptrudging. Thanks. Often (echoing many others) I find that what I want to say has already been said better by another poster. But, I'll definitely think about it.

RedToothBrush · 30/09/2018 18:09

I'm an academic in the USA and this is a forum for British mums so I wouldn't want to impose.

MN has a worldwide base. Its the internet. Its just how it is.

We have much to learn from the experiences of America on many levels of politics. We are culturally different in the UK, but what happens in America has a ripple effect which are important to us all - the whole world over.

If you are not posting just because of where you come from, then please have a rethink.

Cross pollonisation and getting out of echo chambers is much needed. Coming from outside the British bubble is perhaps an asset. You will think in different ways and have the potentional to get others to see things from a way they haven't because of our British culture and British blinkers. Thats how you erase political blindspots and reduce ignorance ultimately.

winterinmadeira · 30/09/2018 18:05

I lurk mostly and post occasionally. I read and agree with most of what’s said Re feminist rights and how to try and influence policy and change. I wish had time to read and post more but sadly I don’t!

Keeptrudging · 30/09/2018 18:00

FWRLurker, I for one enjoyed reading your post, and I don't think where you live matters. I think 'sisterhood' is worldwide.

Vango · 30/09/2018 17:56

Lurking and learning has given me the confidence to wear this. Thanks all.

Lurkers of FWR, pop in and say Hi!
oatmilk4breakfast · 30/09/2018 17:53

👋

ShockedHorrored · 30/09/2018 17:52

I’m on a name change at the moment as there’s a thread I want to post without being outed but I’ve been lurking a while. I’m getting more sickened by the day by the world right now. Heartened by all the women fighting against the current madness.

FleetsumNJetsum · 30/09/2018 17:49

Virgin post.

Registered last night, but lurking for ages.

I have learned so much from you people (and from my mid 20's DD who opened my eyes and sent me here about a year ago).

Thank you. Just thank you.

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