Lurkers of FWR, pop in and say Hi!

Captain Thanks for the link on filling out the GRA consultation. I downloaded it but gave up as I didn't feel I could answer most of it.
I'm going to read a lot more of the links and threads on here. I used to dismiss and hide them as oh no not another trans thread but now I m beginning to get it.
My aim is to be able to explain it to my adult sons who have grown up learning to be inclusive of all and on the one occasion I tried to discuss this I didn't do very well and they now just think I'm bigoted.

Name changed to delurk and say hello - and thanks to all the women of FWR!

I’ve been here for more than a decade under various names but never posted in FWR before, although it’s where I spend by far the majority of my time on MN.

Thanks to FWR I am an ‘out’ GC voice on facebook; (also tentatively at work although like many others here concerned for what it means for my career). I attended the ‘we need to talk’ meeting in York (the one where Linda Bellos asserted her right to self defence 👍🏻), and I’m a proud wearer of my FPFW tee. Currently trying to decide where best to deploy my FPFW leaflets and postcards for best effect in the limited time left before the consultation closes. I have turned one Fb friend into an openly GC voice, who is now sharing FPFW posts herself, and had many more speak to me irl to say they agree...

It’s been a long while since I have pinned my colours to any mast, but this is my line in the sand. For my daughter, and women everywhere, I am finding my voice. And it’s all thanks to this board.

I did a rough head count. More than 200 lurkers have come out on this thread alone. If every one of you fill in the consultation that's a massive help even if you never decide to post again! But please do because together we are amazing, and together we can bring even more along.

hello.

i am a lurker and i have learnt loads. now an enraged and informed lurker. de lurking to say i have done the consultation, written to my mp (much good it'll do, living as i do in the wokest part of the country outside london) and the secretary of state.

all power to you. to us.
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It's helpful to have links repeated, CaptainKirkssparetupee as they're not always easy to spot.

oh sorry, already shared above.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3382148-Could-someone-help-me-fill-out-the-GRA-questionnaire-please
Hope it's okay to share my thread here on how to fill out the GRA Questionnaire.

Delurking now, my tolerance for this insanity well and truly took a nose dive at the doxxing of Posie Parker and then my own DP refusing to see how womens rights were under threat. It's time to make some noise!

I'm mainly a lurker but I bloody love these boards. The tide really seems to be turning these past few days, middle England seems to be wising up at last. I'm enraged about what has happened to Posie.

Yes, I will do all those things! Just as soon as they have a meeting near me I will attend. Well done all you brave women. I am in awe !

Hello lurkers, it is so lovely to hear from you all.

*Dalmatians

Welcome all the lovely lurkers!

I said on the last delurking thread that it felt like the Twilight Barking in 101 Dalmations, and it really, really does!

Antonia87 wrote: What action can I take?

Above all, please, post here :) We need lots of voices.

At the moment, it's important to fill in the GRA consultation (lots of threads). Fair Play for Women has a guide that is linked in this thread):

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3382148-Could-someone-help-me-fill-out-the-GRA-questionnaire-please

This is an updating thread of consultations and Things to do:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318003-Bringing-your-MUST-DO-WOMENS-RIGHTS-consultations-together-with-links-and-timelines-thread

If it's OK in RL for you, speak to people. Maybe take a look at FPFW's information pack. Possibly buy a bag or T-shirt from FPFW or Standing for Women :) Would you attend a Women's Place UK meeting - they'e very inspirational?

I am a long time lurker. Gradually getting more angry at the proposed violation of women's rights. What action can I take?

@SmellyHead

So.... why don't we use art/expression to our advantage here?? I copied my post on a few FWR threads last night to see if anyone picked up on what I was getting at.

It could be any form of media and as long we are telling the story (completely fictional characters of course, or whatever) we can't be accused of transphobia. We're simply just telling a story, and getting it out into the open so those who don't understand the issues perhaps get a grasp on what is happening.

If it wasn't for MN I would not have had a clue just how much of this stuff goes on (don't use twitter either).

We find a way to tell the story (controversial as it may seem) and get it out there to a wider audience.

I hope someone can help with this.

Hello wonderful women. I found this site about a year ago from a GC link, have occasionally browsed around. I've learned a lot.
I've been looking to this site more frequently lately for solid information, humor, insights, and...validation?
Today, I'm here to take my mind off SCROTUS. Yes, I'm from North America. I live in a very WOKE community so I don't have any real life sisters who get it. I love following the UK feminist news. Thanks for all your amazing activism and research. (Also not on Twitter)
Thanks for the invitation to introduce myself.

I am mainly a lurker and find the many strong women's voices on this board so inspiring! I don't have that much time to contribute right now, but I am learning and thinking about so much, and trying to share it in real life where I can. There is such a sense of feminist solidarity on this board, and frankly, that's the only thing that brings me hope in relation to trans ideology; things have to turn around soon, surely!

Oh and I emailed my MP today, a massive rant. My MP is a woman, I'm hoping that helps?

Hi all.

I am a regular poster on other boards, but lurk on the feminism boards, DH tells me off for reading it when I cannot sleep because he can hear me muttering in agreement and getting wound up reading all the amazing, informative and enlightening posts I have come across in the MN FWR rabbit hole.

The women who post here make me feel sane. I feel like no-one in my real life is actually talking about this issue at the moment. Today I decided to brave it and posted a gender critical photo of a woman protesting with a perfect poster that sums up exactly how I feel along the lines of 'woman is a biological reality,' and 'there is no ethical or moral duty to lie to soothe a male ego.." I have since received several messages and negativity for expressing this view and very little support...I am being made out to be transphobic and I just feel like screaming in real life because people are missing the point completely!

One woman messaged me starting with 'I'm a feminist too, but transwomen are women too, what harm are they in our spaces,' and I just didn't know where to start...

Any who, with the 19th of October looming I am deciding to just say 'fuck it' and be honest about how angry I am and keep on sharing my 'bigoted' opinions if it just makes one more woman stop and think about the implications we are facing.

I am still peaking; thank you all for enlightening me.

I don't think so. Art (visual, literary, musical) has a very long history of use in protest. Satire etc.

Hi all,

Just curious really.

Can you get into trouble with the law if you made a film/tv show/song/Work of art which was controversial? Entirely fictional but based on true life stories?

Just wondered

Dear new delurkers, be welcome! I "came out" on the last delurking thread - probably only a couple of months ago - and now look at the state of me

You are needed and wanted. Yes, some of us will have answered "newbie" questions a lot, don't be afraid - read the intro threads referenced in this one, and ask if you think you've missed something. This situation is madness and there are umpteen strands to it. But every one of us has unique perspectives and skills we can bring to this fight. Just one extra person filling in the consultation is valuable. One flyer in the right place could tip someone with power. It's all worth it.

Special mention for those of you in the public sector, especially education - I get it. It's so hard to speak out when your job is on the line. You can still do work behind the scenes - the consultation, putting flyers out, crowd funding. The support work is so valuable; we can't all be on the telly like Posie, but do you reckon she's folding all those t-shirts by herself? Don't underestimate what you can do even if it has to be incognito.

Imo thats part of the problem Goose, we sound like mad extremists when we try to discuss it.

This thread is about why we sound extreme because the scale and scope defies belief:

This right here pretty much sums up the problem for gender critical feminists. A handful of activists are being allowed to make policy and influence legislation on the basis of views that are so ludicrous, the rest of the world can’t believe anyone actually holds them.

Whenever I try to discuss self ID with people who are relatively uninformed, I have to spend the first few minutes just battling through their suspicion and scepticism that anyone can really, genuinely be arguing the things that trans activists are arguing.

Then, when I do persuade them that some people hold these views, they assume such people must be such cranks and eccentrics that their influence is insignificant. NOPE. They are currently shaping policy on sex and gender in pretty much every political party and public sector org. (continues, it's worth your while to read the whole thread)

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