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Lurkers of FWR, pop in and say Hi!

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SophoclesTheFox · 30/09/2018 08:36

I've just been reading this thread and I am utterly blown away by the number of women who say they are lurking here.

It's quite, quite wonderful to read that thread and I wanted to acknowledge it and roll out the red carpet if any of you wanted to post. I know it can feel a bit intimidating, like you have to have the right vocabulary, or some huge knowledge of feminist theory, but you don't.

Your words are valuable, and your unique view is important because together we're powerful!

We're also rude, funny, and most of all DISRESPECTFUL in all the ways that matter. Don't just lurk: join in Grin you are very welcome.

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invisibleoldwoman · 30/09/2018 11:28

I swear there needs to be a section of the board for, Things We Need to Fill In, Letters to MPs and Organisations, Complaints about Programmes etc.

Yes! And things to boycott or support.

ElfrideSwancourt · 30/09/2018 11:27

I have SwearyG's tshirt I love it Smile

AlexaShutUp · 30/09/2018 11:26

I lurk a lot, and post occasionally. I don't feel that I have the level of knowledge that many posters have in order to make meaningful contributions, but I am really concerned about the current direction of travel, and MN is the only place where I have really seen any open and honest debate about it. I cannot talk to people about these issues in RL, as I would be putting my job and livelihood at risk.

I am grateful to all of the articulate and well-informed posters who are giving their time to raise awareness about these issues. I have a daughter, and I'm worried for her future.

Keeptrudging · 30/09/2018 11:25

I like to lurk on here, read things, then go and search for them on twitter and repost there in order to reach a wider audience. I am quite careful not to retweet things which are too radical, as I think it's more useful to drip little bits of info slowly. I've got a lot of followers on twitter, so far I haven't lost any (and they're mostly political rather than gc ones). I'm on the block list for no reason i can see except that I follow/repost feminists on there.

Ginslinger · 30/09/2018 11:24

I lurk a lot and as a result of all the info from threads here I have filled in the forms and sent them in and have spoken to friends and family about the self ID situation and encouraged them to find out more about it.
I'm an old gimmer who came through the 1970's waves of feminism.

NotAnotherFeckingMuftiDay · 30/09/2018 11:22

I mostly lurk. I'm out leafletting every weekend and going to meetings and crowdfunding, but I'm a bit nervous about posting on here and dazzling you all with my atrocious spelling and ignorance. Grin
This morning I've been trying and failing to be brave and start a thread about the Sport and Recreation Alliance consultation which closes on Oct 5th and seems to be about gathering input for them use in their own submission to the GRA consultation. I've had a quick look and there are at least two questions that would benefit from our input...
www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/pages/consultation-in-focus
Has this already been discussed in a thread that I missed and if not is there someone who would be happy to start one?

HalloumiGus · 30/09/2018 11:20

I'm here. I posted once or twice under my old name where I rejected chocolate eggs 😉 But I have learned a lot here - like so many here I am a typical leftie live and let live type. Seeing trans activists tell women to stop discussing periods and female biological issues because it's exclusionary was my road to Damascus moment.

SophoclesTheFox · 30/09/2018 11:19

Oh my goodness, I am actually crying here.

It feels like that bit in lord of the rings where they light all the beacons Blush all these little lights in the darkness, linking together.

Proper powerful, this.

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breastfeedingclownfish · 30/09/2018 11:11

Yay! welcome all the lurkers

minsmum · 30/09/2018 11:10

Hi long time lurker here. I don't post as I am not as articulate as most of you wonderful women but I have learnt so much and have come out as GC at work (local authority).

MrsBartlet · 30/09/2018 11:04

I have also been lurking and learning and am very grateful for all the thoughtful, articulate women who post here. I discuss this frequently with my family and now starting to discuss it with a colleague and your words have helped me articulate how I feel about this. I have had numerous heated and emotional debates with my 21 year old feminist dd who I am slowly trying to bring onside with this.

LangCleg · 30/09/2018 11:03

VelvetGreen - I'm also in a rural backwater. No woketopians to contend with - the issue here is persuading people that such clearly ridiculous things are happening at all!

VelvetGreen · 30/09/2018 11:00

I rarely post on mn at all these days, and the fwr boards are pretty much all I read now. I am so grateful that there is somewhere these discussions can be had - it's not stuff that generally comes up in conversation in my rural backwater. I'm tentatively starting conversations about this in rl and find most people have no awareness of the issues but get it pretty quickly, or at least start thinking about it. I would be just as ignorant without you lot, so thank you.

OhGodWhatTheHellNow · 30/09/2018 10:59

I usually lurk as I don't feel as eloquent as pp, but I' m reading fwr daily. I'm in my fifties now and finally finding the language to assert myself, yay!

northender · 30/09/2018 10:57

I'm an avid reader but rarely post. I have shown my ds (17) and my dd (13) the Piers Morgan/SG and the Sky News PP clips this week. Ds' response was "That's bonkers!". Dd's response was "I want to be like Posie, she is amazing". I have been able to articulate my thoughts so much more clearly thanks to these threads and salute all of you who are already so articulate.

RilkeanHeart · 30/09/2018 10:54

Another delurking big wave. I too work in an environment where the new orthodoxies can’t be discussed let alone challenged. This board is a breath of fresh air. Solidarity!

Sparkyduchess · 30/09/2018 10:51

Another lurker and only very occasional poster. I’ve lurked here for more than a decade, I don’t post because invariably someone has already said it.

I take enormous comfort and strength from knowing I’m not alone in being angry and worried. I will make more effort to join ❤️

GuideLeaderNameChange · 30/09/2018 10:50

Hello, been reading along for years - I am a Guide Leader and put my name to The Times letter in April, have been trying to not leave an online footprint that can be linked to me apart from that though!

YellowPirate · 30/09/2018 10:49

Lurking for a long while, reading and learning. I never feel confident enough in my opinions to post either here or in real life. Maybe that's female socialization!

I remember my sister saying something very gender critical a few years ago about the whole trans debate and me thinking she was clueless and feeling very defensive of a lovely transwoman I work with. However my eyes have truly been opened over the last we months on here and I have completely changed my point of view.

3TresTrois · 30/09/2018 10:45

I’ve tentatively discussed self ID with my work team a couple of times (all female team, ranging in age from 22-60).

The first time it cropped up in conversation about 6 months ago they had no idea about any of it and were a bit agog at me, I think (and I was quite tame in what I said). I felt like I was sharing my radical opinions on some kind of top secret knowledge with them. It was a bit uncomfortable, but hey ho.

Last week, it came up again off the back of Posie’s poster, and they were all totally on board. Couldn’t believe how ludicrous that Harrop guy was being. So I pushed a bit further and said a bit more, and it was received much better this time.

I still have to be very careful and measured in what I say though, mostly, as I work in an area where the woke brigade are strong.

I can be a disrespectful adult human female with my mum and DH, though Grin.

LangCleg · 30/09/2018 10:42

at Mama 3TresTrois!

MadamePudding · 30/09/2018 10:41

Great thread! I've been lurking here for a while, both on MN and on FWR specifically. I don't feel like I can discuss my GC views in real life: most of my friends are very 'woke' and I only have one GC friend whom I feel safe discussing this with, as well as my DH.

I was a very GNC child and wanted to be a boy for a while, although with the benefit of hindsight I think what I really wanted was to be able to marry a girl and thought that you had to be a boy to do it (this was in the 90s so before gay marriage etc). After a lot of soul-searching I came to the conclusion that I am bisexual and I am now comfortable with this. It terrifies me that I might have been pushed down the trans route had I been born a couple of decades later.

So, there's my life story Grin I love all the posters here, such a combination of fearless intelligence, wit, and bravery. I hope to become braver and more outspoken in the future!

littlbrowndog · 30/09/2018 10:34

I game with about 46 guys, just ordinary guys like plasters, mechanics, retired, school kids and have peaked them all
Some have daughters and not one single one thinks that guys can have dicks
So the n they get talking to their mate and families and word spresd about what is going on

None have them have ever heard of what is happening to women but they do not like it
So even if can’t talk about it at work do the chit chat with friends
It spreads

3TresTrois · 30/09/2018 10:31

Essentially I steal your words to use later so I can hold my own in arguments and discussions.

Grin

Yes! This.

I also wanted to add that I introduced my 72 yr old mum to FWR, so she now lurks, too ( Hi, Mum!).

We have fantastic conversations off the back of MN Feminist threads. They get very ranty and sweary and feel SO good Grin.

littlbrowndog · 30/09/2018 10:26

Oi oi Lang 😂😂

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