What peak transed you

Argh posted too soon.
Female patient of mine who flipped after being referred to as she and hid under the reception hatch wailing away like the world was ending. I was giving testosterone injections but she still needed a smear. Crazy.
Both these individuals had massive psychological issues. The guy at uni was really creepy though. It was the softly softly voice and the way he'd play with my hair. I think I thought that now he was a woman (yeah I know) that he would fancy men. I'm pretty sure he was coming on to me now i look back and that's part of the reason he was so creepy. My gut was screaming at me.

I kind of knew that Trans ideaology kind of clashed with feminism but I ignored it and pretended, like a good little Libfem.

But the Rose McGowan been berated by that awful Andi person did it for me, more specifically the aftermath where people were going out their way to support Andi and label Rose a Transphobe. I thought I must have watched a completely different video. What I saw was a complete arsehole verbally abusing a rape survivor for not “centering” Transwomen. It was batshit insane. Afterwards loads of dodgy stuff came out about this Andi person, yet their supporters didn’t want to address it.

I'm not sure tbh but possibly my first ever experience of trans was at uni when a mature student decided he wanted to be a woman. We were friends but he started creeping me out. I think the asking for condoms to fill with water and put in his bra probably did it. then there was a female patient of m

Suddenly transwomen are now "women" and we are cis-women. WTAF? It's not like we ever chose the term "women" and I know pre-this-whole-trans-BS many feminists actaully used terms such as "womon" or "wimmin" or "womyn". Herstory instead of history and such. These terms have now all been forgotten about, because transwomen now take center stage on everything, including reproductive rights. Well, done, assholes. They have found a new way to shut women up. Misogyny just keeps morphing and setting us back in a different way about once every decade.

There have been tons and tons of moments.

• There was a photo in the press of a trans girl winning a race against girls. The look on the girls' faces almost made me cry. It really was a look that said, "What is the fucking point?"

• The Labour Party saying that it would be possible for all-female panels to consist of all-transwomen.

• Posie Parker's vlog where she is furious at women having to be meek and accept this shit from men.

• The way statistics lie eg how many women rape other women.

I like a lot of pp was a bit shocked when I read posts saying TWANW, it was what I had been begining to think but would have never have fared to say out loud. I thought the no platforming of GG was outrageous although I still wasn't really onboard.

Then it was Jenner and then Huntley finally sealed it for me, once you see what has been going on it's actually really frightening how little Joe public know about this.

I've been getting braver talking about it at work, my book club and even had a long discussion with DS, who's 17, gay and very woke like most people his age. I clearly knew way more about it than he did and he was a bit taken aback at my knowledge (thanks MN) and while he didn't exactly agree with me I think I gave him food for thought, which is fine as it took me a while too.

Cunnilingusgate - Owen Jones berating lesbians for not doing lady dick. Sarah Ditum (?) retorts to him whether he would be willing to go down on a transman. LOJ throws toys out of pram and calls her disgusting and homophobic. Irony enters its death throws.

Riley J Dennis did it for me. I didn't even know any of this went on until mumsnet directed me to Magdalen Berns.

Wombat welcome. Try this www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

I don't pretend to know or understand any of what is going on at the moment

I was very much in the let everyone be what they want category

But the other day I read about a billboard been taken down as it had the definition of women on?

I was was just confused!? Why is what I am offensive? So I started to read bits

Why is calling a trans women wrong and why am I now suddenly a cis women??

I tried to explain it to my DH confused the fuck out of the pair of us!

I am a women, a female human and I want to feel safe in female spaces, I say this not to jump on a bandwagon but as a victim of abuse who wants to feel safe, I am worried what this all means

Any posters who would like to enlighten me further I would be greatful as I feeling like I am sinking in an ocean of info!!

That whole "cotton ceiling" thing, the harassment of people at Mitchfestival, the "feeling like a woman" thing (which just means a bunch of sexist stereotypes), any disagreement with transactivists and their groupies gets you labeled a "bigot." Being told that I have privilege for being a woman. (If they had said for being, white, straight or abled bodied, fine, but there is no such thing as "female privilege")

It was a culmination of things.

The gg thing this week took me from very angry to doing something about it.
And my ex too.
And both of us are very stand back and let other people do the fighting people. But we've peaked hard

1986 watching misogynist drag queens in gay clubs.

A political group claiming that their representation of women was marginally better than it appeared because one of the men in the photo of their members was actually a woman. This was a man with stereotypically unremarkable hair/clothes/name - there was literally no way to see from the photo that he thought he was a woman, i.e. his male privilege was fully intact. And the woman who had commented sarcastically about what a sausage fest it was fucking apologised. Suddenly she was on the back foot, the one who needed to be more progressive.

Something just twigged. I thought hang on a minute we could have complete male domination, worse than it is now, but if a few of those men claimed to be women we'd all have to shut up and take it.

Everything else soon fell into place.

Somebody tell us about cunnilingusgate. I gave up even trying to read young Mr Jones a good while back.

Someone on Twitter had posted a story about a woman raping a man, in a snarky kind of 'see - women can be monsters too' fashion. It didn't take much further reading to discover that, surprise surprise, the 'female' rapist had been in possession of a fully functioning penis. I duly pointed this out, but then realised that if I took it much further I'd end up being labelled the horrible nasty transphobe, thoughtcrime being even less acceptable than actual violence.

Seeing people who claimed to be feminists supporting a woman being punched in the face because she was a ‘terf’. I’d had mini peaks before but that sent me over the edge.

IW discussing choosing her lady bits from a catalogue on CBB.

Having a transwoman patient rrfuse a side room and instead demand and then be placed in a 6 bedded female bay with 5 women,.some of whom were extremely confused as to why this 6ft person with a beard was in the single sex bay with them. It was very distressing for their relatives as well.

And then Danielle Muscardo and the whole "suck my lady dick"

Those people who pretend to be trans to access women-only spaces (esp. women's prisons). Not only because it affects those women (which really pisses me off - in a lot of cases these women have suffered beyond belief!) but also because it damages the cause of those who genuinely need to transition or have transitioned and want to live quiet, happy and fulfilled lives.

I believe in biological sex. I also believe in supporting those people who are genuine transitioners. It's complex but not beyond the wit of humans, surely?

An American company selling bras for young teens got ripped apart for saying their bras were for girls because some boys need bras too.

Very simply, that the feelings of men trump the potential safety of women and girls.

That and the disregard for the importance of scientific terminology.

In all honesty, it was the FWR boards on here. You wonderful women helped me tap into the nagging feeling I had that I was going against something - I couldn't even articulate what it was - every time I had over the years nodded sympathetically, acquiesced and otherwise accommodated trans ideology. I now know what I was going against. I was going against reality. And truth. That's why I felt so uncomfortable.

It also brought into sharp relief an experience I had maybe twenty years ago, working as a temp in a health administration setting. I got a call five minutes before I was due to finish for the day. I'd had a miscarriage a couple of days before, was still bleeding and cramping, but couldn't afford to take time off because I was an agency temp.

The call was from a transwoman who elucidated at some length how distressed she was that her doctor referred to her as a man. I could do literally nothing about this - I was a low grade admin worker, and a temp. I was paid £4.50 an hour (in London). I listened and listened and listened - for at least half an hour. I wasn't getting paid, I was worried about flooding through my clothes, but she just kept going on and on.

And so I allowed this person's preoccupation with being seen as a woman - when she wasn't - to take precedence over my own actual medical needs which arose precisely because I am a woman.

Now I fully accept responsibility for doing this - I should have cut the call, gone home and taken painkillers and slept and it wasn't entirely her fault that I didn't. (Although, she should really have known that people don't generally work after 5.30 pm.) But it seems to me pretty symbolic as to what women are being expected to do right now - to backshelf their own needs which arise because of what sex they are in order to accommodate people who are not women.

And I'm older now, and give far less of a shit than I used to, and I won't be doing that again.

Also, a video of a transwoman inserting a tampon into their neovagina, (not as graphic as it sounds, thankfully) and seeming like a pleasant person, but clearly not understanding that women don’t enjoy or get off on putting tampax in. His face was so confused, so disappointed, so crestfallen. It clearly had never occurred to the person that we just wear tampax to absorb menstrual blood, not to validate our womanhood or titilate ourselves. Like, fancy having an operation to try and make yourself into a woman, but having no understanding at all about women, beyond that we have vaginas and tits 😳

I think it was probably reading or listening to the stories of multiple parents of various trans children and realising that in many cases, the children had clearly absorbed the message ‘boys/girls don’t do/like that’ and had logically deduced ‘I like what girls like, so therefore I must BE a girl’ but because the parents were so rigid about gender stereotypes (whilst simultaneously claiming not to be) they allowed the kid to start to believe they were literally the opposite sex, instead of letting a boy play with barbie 😳
And it all just seemed so mental that I realised I no longer even believe that trans is a real thing. I just don’t. It’s bullshit.