What peak transed you

I came late to the party.
I got a frisson of ‘ how can this be’ at Jenner getting woman of the year after wearing a frock and nail varnish for six months .

My moment of truth came watching INdia Willouby on CBB shouting at Anne Widdicombe and Amanda Barrie while jabbing a pointy finger right in their faces. Shouting and bullying in an aggressive, manly entitled way ‘ I AM A WOMAN. I AM A REAL WOMAN’
Yeah love, you keep saying it. Someone might believe you one day.

I was just amazed at his ( and I have to say him because I have never seen a woman behave like that) utter selfish entitled behaviour. EVERYTHING had to revolve around HIS desires, HIS expectations of how other people had t9 behave around him. I hated it so much and my DH got thoroughly pissed off with it taking us two hours to watch the show simply because I was so horrified I kept talking over what happened.
Anyway, then i found some threads on here and the full horror of the ‘ cult of Trans women’ was laid before me. I also spent weeks ( literally) on twitter and had to come off for my own sanity.
I’m in utter awe of the eloquent, intelligent women we get posting on the boards re trans. I have learned so very much and I thank you all.

I’m also so scared for my daughter and the things I took for granted ie only females in the Top Shop changing rooms have gone. Our rights - which we fought for so very hard - are being trampled on by a teeny minority of sexually deviant men and being given away by some bloody stupid women who follow the cult of trans like the children following the pied piper.

And madigan who apparently has periods. Fucking lying men.

And oh yes, who can forget the first ‘woman’ soldier to serve on the front line 😤

Caitlyn Jenner winning ‘Woman of the Year’ 🤨
Reading ‘I am Jazz’ at local library, a book promoting transgenderism to children and their parents (based on story of Jazz Jennings). Yes, of course this little boy was really a girl because he loved the colour pink, dancing and mermaids. What a crock.

Didn't realise the impact and overriding issues self identity would create - until read about and saw videos of the WPUK meeting in Bristol , where women were blocked entry with masked men/women.

I was a self-congratulating, Jezebel-reading, handmaiden for a long time. Completely on board with the TWAW mantra for no other reason than it seemed to be an equivalent cause to women’s rights or gay and lesbian rights. They used the same language so I thought it must be the same thing.

I read Cordelia Fine’s book Delusions of Gender so I knew ladybrain wasn’t a thing but then I started reading FWR and lots of things I’d previously ignored came into focus. The no-platforming of Julie Bindel and Germaine Greer. The contemptuous language towards older women and mothers. The cotton ceiling. Lily Madigan. The sexist stereotypes about womanhood. Women’s sport being taken over by men. The incredible Magdalen Berns. The ridiculous Dr Harrop. When I realised I’d been put on a block list just for following radfems on twitter - I hadnt even posted anything, just followed - then I knew that TRAs and their followers are just people who hate women having their own opinions and being in charge of their own lives more than anything else.

And now women are being told that the dictionary definition of woman is “appropriating” womanhood. I’m furious that even being a woman now belongs to men.

I’m in Australia and I’m in awe at the women who have risked their personal safety, their jobs, their reputations to fight this. You are so brave. I’ve piped up on an Australian Mums group about this several times and am called a bigot etc but when I lay out the facts then I get lots of people tentatively poking their heads to say they are also worried. I have you all here to thank for that.

Eddie Izzard.

Loved him when he was a cross-dressing heterosexual male breaking boundaries.

Couldn't believe my ears when he started banging on about him being a "pioneer" of trans and having lady-genes. No. Fuck right off.

Then I started reading more, and the more I learned the more I peaked

I was never on board, I kept thinking that no-one actually believes this, live and let live and the fad will fade.

Then I read the transcript from Venice's interrogation and Posie being interviewed by police and I got actually scared and shook with anger.
I realised that this is a trojan horse for actual authoritarianism, those spoilt kids playing Marxist comrades have no fucking respect for anything, especially how sacred and fragile our liberties are. It's not even fucking ancient history, they could talk to a living, breathing survivor of the actual gulags today.
But no, it's a joke to them.
I am incensed by these fragile douchebags thinking they get to rule society. This is how you get a reactionary swing. This is how you get Nazis and dictators. This ends badly for everyone and they don't see that they're useful idiots because no-one, no-one will back a revolution based on trans people

Ironically it was the Guardian. I was reading an article about a person who committed a terrible crime. Attempted murder. The victim had life changing injuries. Yet the article was so weirdly, fawningly gentle towards the perpetrator - how very difficult things were for them, and how very understandable it was that they bludgeoned a man almost to death.

It was so odd and jarring and it put me on alert that something was going on.

The attempted murderer was Lauren Jeska- a trans woman who almost killed a man from the governing body of her sport because they said Lauren couldn’t compete against women. Lauren’s narcissistic rage got rewritten as victimhood and the victim became the mean person who was mean to poor dear Lauren. There was even an interview with Lauren’s nice, sad parents....

So in trying to propagandise me, the Guardian actually radicalised me. All by themselves. And that was before I knew one thing about this toxic agenda and all the danger for women therein. Nicely done, Guardian.

When the Olympic committee changed their regulations around trans people competing, about two years ago. Suddenly I saw the potential repercussions and it it seemed so ludicrous and unbelievable, yet was actually happening. I really started looking at it then and couldn't believe what had happened so insidiously. For a while I felt scared and hopeless but recent events and the strength and work of the GC women I know is making me cautiously optimistic, I feel like people are waking up a bi, though I think we will be forced to make some minor concessions before it's over.

The physical attack on Maria Mac last year, closely followed by the appointment of a teenage boy in a Women's Officer post by Rochester CLP.

Plus the 2 year battle with my DD's school about unacceptable levels of sexual harassment and assault that she and her friends were experiencing. Described by school as 'normal teen curiosity and development'.

What really did it for me was reading FWR on here and realising that, being a woman was being reduced, and being defined by THE WORST gender stereotypes possible. Oh you like dresses and pink and glitter and unicorns? Oh yes you ARE a woman. People think they are being so modern and woke, but they are just peddling the most old fashioned, outdated ideas going.

This is one of the biggest things for me. It really seems we have regressed into narrower gender stereotyping, and I do worry that some children are being encouraged to think that if they aren't a certain type of girl or boy, then maybe they are in the wrong body. Almost all children at some stage as they develop feel uncomfortable and unsure in their body and who they are, and this is now being pushed as an answer to that. I'm not saying that for some it isn't genuine, but I have concerns that this also affects young people who are just vulnerable and a bit different.

Paris Lees on Celebrity Island complaining that "she has less testosterone than the girls" - her words, making herself out to be different when it's convenient - India on CBB walking around with her tits out in a way that would have got a woman (sorry Cis woman) slut-shamed - and the misogynistic shouting down of women that frankly is just so familiarly male..

It sort of bothers me that I can't remember the definitive crystallizing moment that brought me here. I think the basis of my peak was the suppression of debate any time the subject came up.

This "peak trans" moment sticks out: sex columnist Dan Savage's advice to a young lesbian doing online dating who complained about transwomen contacting her, and how she just wasn't interested. He said it was wrong of her to put "no transwomen" in her dating profile and to be a good ally she needed to put up with awkward dates with men she had no interest in. Reading that, I kind of doubted that there were many gay men, including Mr. Savage, who would spend their precious time dating women just so they wouldn't hurt their feelings.

For me I think it really built up gradually. I wouldn't say I ever believed "TWAW", but probably would have said it was a kind thing to "act as if" for the (then) small number of transsexuals who generally did actually have dysphoria etc.

But then with the push to widen the umbrella, and increase the access to women's spaces, I started to see more and more the nature of the people pushing hardest for the changes - it was the activists themselves, their aggressive, sexualised and predatory behaviour, "no debate", threats and eventually actual violence that really made me see that the new TA movement was quite different to the old-style transsexuals most people were familiar with, and that the people pushing this hardest were the LAST people I'd ever want in female spaces!

Two other milestones I remember were firstly, when Juno Dawson started writing in Glamour. The fact that they were inviting this person to write all this guff - in a magazine for girls and young women - about how women were just meanies if they didn't want penises in their spaces, and transwomen just wanted to do a "little wee or poo" in peace - while blithely ignoring genuine concerns, gave me a big nudge in the instant-lawn direction.

The other one that sticks in my head, although it was much more recent and after I'd already "peaked" several times, was after I had read some things on here about BDSM, and how even in the fetish community, it was considered very out of order to drag uninvolved people into your fetish. Soon after, I was shopping in town and saw a little scene between a (very obvious) transwoman and a saleswoman in the perfume department which looked like such an obvious example of exactly that - I won't go into detail cos might get myself banned, suffice to say that the TW was VERY obviously male and their clothing seemed if anything chosen to highlight rather than hide the fact (despite the wig and makeup), and that they seemed to be getting great kicks from forcing the poor saleswoman to pretend along or get into trouble. So again this just seemed to highlight the wrongness of the whole ideology and of forcing women to pretend we don't see what we see.

When they started fucking about with language and attempted to require me to lie. Thin end of the wedge.

I've posted about this on here before. A friend's husband transitioned, and they are now a lesbian couple. Fine. Very happy for them. BUT he is a GP. And is now listed on his surgery's website as a female doctor. So women will make an appointment to see a woman doctor and will find themselves in front of a man in a dress. (Who is an excellent, empathic, caring doctor, by the way, but just not a female doctor).
Pondering this made me go down the rabbit of 'well, what IS a woman?'

Coming across a transwidow thread late at night in Active, and being shocked at the impact on families.

Jenner, esp when getting Woman of the Year. I knew something was going seriously wrong then.

Wish I'd been able to look deeper back then but was ill.

Basically *Datun.
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I was sent here from the comments on a (probably guardian) article about how full of horrible TERFS mumsnet was.

10 minutes** of reading through and I came across a brilliant datun post which laid it all out as only she can. Spent an evening reading the Spartacus threads and it turns out I was horrible too.

ToeToToe that interview, I've never seen Jane Fae before and I have no words. The huffing and puffing and shuffling papers is desperately attention seeking. The knitting is just bizarre

Tara Hudson, I was still naively believing TW meant someone who had surgical reassignment because of gender dysphoria. Read the interviews and the way Tara described their breasts made me feel like id been tricked into listening to a man describing a sexual fantasy. I knew nothing of AGP then so it confused me and took a while to put it into words. Realising how violent and unlike the average woman in prison was scared me for the women they would be put in with.

Many more peaks after that.

The Facebook post that said "If trans women aren't front and center of your social justice efforts you're doing it wrong"

The Facebook post which simultaneously said that nobody should ever ask what's in a trans person's pants and berated non-trans people for not being terribly keen to date trans people--well pardon me for having sexual preferences, apparently that makes me a bigot now

The extreme gender stereotyping.

The way the trans men I know continue to behave like womenie fairly nice to be around, by and largeand the trans women I know continue to behave like men, expecting everything to always all be about them. If gender is a social construct only then stop fucking behaving like men eh??

wow just had to look up 'truscum'... wtaf?!

Used to consider myself a huge trans supporter and anti-terf. Then one day I read a post on tumblr that said if you didn't sleep with a trans person because of their genitals you were transphobic and you were fetishizing genitals(...what?). I was shocked because it was the first time I'd heard anything like that. I'd considered myself a part of the queer community for years as a lesbian. Then when I'd ended up questioning it I got attacked by people who are thought were good, sane people beforehand. This all led to asking myself more questions about how woman and man could actually mean anything, while also feeling that my questioning made me a bad person that was adding to the deaths of trans women. I didn't even want to be a lesbian at one point because I thought I was a bad one for not being attracted to TW. Eventually I started reading "terf" content and realized I had been lied to about them...since they were literally the only people left making actual sense. Since that time about 2 and a half years ago I feel like I continue to have peak trans moments everyday.

This video www.facebook.com/womansplaceuk/videos/footage-of-picket-line-attack/575443279476529/

I was shocked, and bewildered. What did solidarity with trans people have to do with a union picket line? Why were they so angry? They looked and sounded like middle class students, but behaved like a lynch mob. The way they were egging each other on was terrifying.

Searching for background information I read about the attack on Maria at Speaker's Corner, and came across the word TERF. When I googled that it took me to terfisaslur.com

The more I found out the more horrified I became. The harmless transsexuals I used to know and feel solidarity with were being scorned and shunned as truscum, and women airing concerns were threatened and persecuted relentlessly.

I'd been very ill for years, and not keeping up with outside events, but how could things been allowed to go so far, without intervention from authorities? How could Jeremy Corbyn be allowing it to happen in the Labour party, knowing what was going on and yet making the concious decision to turn his back on women and girls?

Just like in the early church and in every revolution, women are welcome to spend their resources, do the grunt work, and risk their lives on the barricades, die ingloriously for the cause, but once the battle is won the men always divide up the power between them, and we can all fuck off back to the kitchen. Why bother with demanding cunty women who insist on making changes, when transwomen are so much more reasonable and easier to get along with?

Thank goodness for the sanity of mumsnet women, and the bravery of the women who have been fighting this hideous war for so many long and hopeless years.

I'm heartened by the resurgence of real feminism, after the wilderness decades, it warms the cockles of my heart to see increasing numbers of women waking up and joining the fight. Like me, ordinary people have no idea what has been going on, or what the risks are, but once all the facts are known it's like gravity, the penny always drops in the same direction.

The anti-woman activists deciding to target children is horrendous, but it galvanises the women who would never dream of making a fuss on their own behalf in a way that nothing else could.