What peak transed you

I am a HCP.
The distress caused to a woman with a very particular need to be examined by a woman, when faced with a man (identifying as a Transwoman, but honestly, obviously looking like a man) for a pelvic exam.
And
The woman attacked at Speakers Corner
And
The attacks on women on social media, by people representing our major political parties.

I was / am all for supporting people to live as they like, and have no patience with actual transphobia, as in insulting Trans people or abusing them, but we have to find a balance and TAs are showing that THEY do not stand alongside women.

Somebody up thread asked about previous meetings and speeches, you can watch recordings of previous speeches from this link

womansplaceuk.org/a-womans-place-is-on-the-platform/

The term "cis woman".

I didn't know what it meant and when I looked it up, I remember a feeling of cold fear as I realised the implications.

It was the cotton ceiling for me. I didn’t believe it was true to start with it seemed so utterly disgraceful. Then I went on twitter...

Then I heard about self ID... I started posting in opposition on a lesbian forum and got absolute pelters off some of the women. I’d heard about the abuse and gaslighting, but again, just thought it was a few nutters, but then I started getting it myself for what I considered to be perfectly sensible, logical objections, from other lesbians ffs, so the journey to the peak was pretty swift after that.

Shameless lurker here

I thought people who got het up
about bathrooms were total bigots. I used to roll my eyes. I thought mumsnet feminism boards were really mean about trans people. Thinking you can’t all be evil terfs I started wading through the threads here and on another gender critical forums and the following things peaked me.

• trans periods (mine are horrific and require serious prescription pain killers, some moron going on about how they just feel sooo emotional and how they had to take care of themselves when on their “period” made me see red, until i saw the “try to find used sanitary products and wear them brigade” which was just WTF!)

• men in their 50’s calling themselves girls (i mean seriously, shudder)
• when i realised that some transwomen actually mean it when they say transwomen are women - they must know thats a lie, this is straight up orwellian shit, EVERYONE can see that you are a bloke in a dress. Which everyone should be fine with, but the absurdity and denial of biology is insane. This is also why I love miranda yardley, I can’t imagine it’s fun for her to point out that she herself is a biological male but she puts material reality first.
• ladydick (i just can’t even... the phrase makes me want to vomit)
• realising that ANY questions = transphobia
• harrassment of lesbians (not so much gay men, funny that) - i’m not a lesbian but this is just rape culture and misogny
• shutting down of womens meetings to discuss seriosu changes that can have an impact on all of us while crying about how TRA’s don’t “feel safe” because women and transexuals are talking about what the GRA means for women.
• demanding access to womens spaces regardless of what that means for women who use the spaces, the complete narccissim of that and the supine, spineless capitulation of the service providers.

Tbh these days I’m peaked every fucking five minutes.

There's been many peaks, the one that pushed me to action was Karen White.
I have a close friend who was sentenced to serve a term in New Hall Prison. They were released before Karen White arrived but that could of been my friend. She was just a normal girl who made some very bad choices. She deserved to be incarcerated but noone deserves to be locked up with a known rapist with absolutely no chance of escape.

I’ve not really experienced anything IRL and was not very aware of things from the news etc so it’s only really been on MN that I’ve read things that made me go WTF.

But then I peak transed when I found out a friend of a friend is transing her son. This is a child I met for the first time last year, and mistakenly said “she” - I felt guilty for making the assumption from his beautiful long hair and feminine features. I got funny looks of course for the mistake of saying she.

Roll on a year and now he’s trans and we must all say she. The illogic of it just tipped me over the edge. I don’t see this family in person but have to change the subject if a very woke friend talks about it.

Child is still only about 6 BTW.

I think the moment that convinced me that I had to start paying attention and get involved was the publication of the 2016 Maria Miller report - seeing all the written evidence she had deliberately ignored.

I keep on peaking...the first alert I had was allowing self-ID for all women short lists, I thought they had a GRC.

I'd been having my doubts for a while but it was this that finally did it:
twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1037641263103832064

1. The weakness and false equivalence of the argument - same sex marriage and 'trans rights' are NOT THE SAME!
2. Being condescended to by some berk prancing around like an 8 year old pretending to be a proper grown up lady.

That, and having to explain to my dear old eighty-something mother what a 'cis woman' is.

The expanding of the concept of trans to include a whole bunch of piss takers like Bearded Alex 'I always thought of myself as a man until I read all this amazing science on my gender studies course' Drummond.

The fact everyone is meant to accept anyone as literally a woman if they say they are, because 'you're trans enough'.

The complete and utter lack of thought or concern for the impact on woman and girls. Even to the extent of housing male sex offenders in women's prisons, or putting an explicitly heterosexual and obviously male transwoman in a bedroom with a rape survivor (Kristi Hanna in Toronto).

The Munroe person tweeting that women talking about their biological reality was 'exclusionary' So basically 'Hi, I'm Munroe the real live woman but OMG shut the fuck up about your disgusting periods and uterus issues, can't you see we want to talk about all the pink and how we're all gals together!!!' Then the same Munroe being asked to be a keynote speaker at a woman's film festival. Enough said.

I never peaked. I just always knew. Happy to accept trans women in the old days for the most part, but knew instantly that the new politics was bullshit as soon as I encountered it. Possibly this was because my first major encounter was via misogynistic TRAs who left nothing to the imagination vis a vis their intentions.

If I hadn't already peaked then Posie Parker vs India Wolloughby on ITV on Friday. Posie was very polite and said that India did look like a woman but side by side when the cameras panned out to include them both in the same shot it was blatantly obvious India is a man. No surgery is going to change the glaringly obvious maleness. Height, posture, hands, shoulders, mannerisms. Yeah sure they were "feminine" mannerisms but too much so. Too stereotyped. Very affected and unnatural. And he didn't know what to do with his legs so they swung under the chair like a child's. All that facial surgery and you can still tell. And don't get me started on the fluttering hands when asked to define what it means to live as a woman.

No debate was the main one. I am perfectly happy to debate whether Hitler meant well really, pros and cons of Rosemary West babysitting or anything else people want to debate. No debate is dangerous and usually used in cults to control minds. Basically it's 'shut up women and do and think as you are told'. That doesn't work for me.

Following close behind was prisons, rape centres and twaw.

Definitely the sports issue. Then Conchita winning Eurovision and all her ridiculous posturing and fanning herself and getting hysterical when the votes were coming in. Acting like the worst stereotype of a silly, dizzy, breathless woman in his full beard and everyone blabbing on at how marvellous it was. There was a fawning thread on here that I pissed on from a great height. I don't ever go near Twitter for the sake of my mental health. Now it is Mumsnet's very unclear and inconsistent moderation on this subject ... makes me angrier and angrier.

I have to say I don't particularly like the term peak transing either, although I believe it's intended to mean peaking with the whole row over this reform rather than the broader meaning you refer to bringincrazyback. I would say I'm peak self-Id ing personally, I have no problem with people who transition accessing spaces - as they indeed currently do, my problem is with a reform that allows anyone, regardless of whether they truly believe themselves to be another gender or have made any attempt to live as that gender to do so overnight simply through filling out a form.

There are some people opposed to this who are also anti trans, which is wrong, but the majority simply have concerns about the unconsidered consequences of this. Some of the people who fill out that form may not be transgender at all. Sexual predators already use sophisticated methods to access women and children, becoming priests, coaches, teachers, guide leaders. Do we really believe they wouldn't fill out a form? That is my issue.

Caitlin Jenner being Woman of the Year.

Also PeakTrans is a term used on Reddit, Twitter, FB, Tumblr, various publications and is part of the Urban Dictionary. Not just this site.

And people say there's no hate on this site.

Correct. Because there isn’t. Unless you can link to some?

Maybe read the thread bringin. It's full of examples of hate- towards women.

What a shame that was the worst you can find, bringincrazyback. Must be very disappointing for you, that you can’t find better evidence of ‘hate’. 🙄

So 'peak transing' is now a concept? And people say there's no hate on this site.

Once I saw that the most vocal supporters of trans ideology were so contemptuous of women’s voices, I now see it every time.

The fact that you aren't allowed to discuss it. You're either fully and absolutely on board no questions asked or you're a massive bigot. The fact that you aren't allowed to have a different, middle ground view scared me and made me research it more.

I agree. It just serves to polarise the issues, and I don't think that helps either side.

It was the sports issues that first caught my attention, particularly with respect to sport and scholarships.