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What peak transed you

309 replies

Politelygiveszerofucks · 29/09/2018 18:57

I know this has probably been done to death, not sure if there is another thread somewhere, but briefly, what was it that peak transed you? I don't mean long philosophical essays, but was there something or a specific incident which suddenly made that lightbulb switch on?

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AngryAttackKittens · 30/09/2018 21:20

Food or gas bill versus red dress or green skirt and silky black top?

Must be nice. How the other half lives, etc.

RepealtheGRA · 30/09/2018 21:15

Just read that NauticalDisaster Fuck. This shit has been going on for longer than I’ve been alive. I should’ve woken up years ago Sad

Budgieinaberet · 30/09/2018 20:55

Yes Angry it would be lovely.
Can you imagine how dull I must have been. Trying to decide wether to pay the gas bill or the rent ?

RepealtheGRA · 30/09/2018 20:50

Aw thanks BlushFlowers

NauticalDisaster · 30/09/2018 20:50

4 years ago, this article in The New Yorker:
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/04/woman-2

AngryAttackKittens · 30/09/2018 20:43

Wouldn't it be lovely to have a life where deciding what to wear was your biggest challenge?

Budgieinaberet · 30/09/2018 20:38

For me it started with Germaine Greer was being no-platformed.
Then Caitlin - the most difficult thing about being a woman is deciding what 👗 to wear.
Followed by Lily Madigan.
Adrian Harrop also deserves a mention for his stunning performance on Sky news

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 30/09/2018 20:35

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OhHolyJesus · 30/09/2018 20:34

Ditto @Starlings27

Mumsnet showed me the way and whilst I'm supportive of genuine dysmorphia I don't want self ID and I want to protect safe spaces for women and children.

Lots of threads here 'peaked' me but the #nodebate stuff really cemented it. It makes me furious and I'm sad that there are always a few (trans activists ) that ruin it for the majority of peacefully living trans people who simple want to go about their business. I'm not sure these people really want to be associated with all the venom they spit.

LeftRightCentre · 30/09/2018 20:28

I don't need a grip, Dance, what next, 'Calm down, dear'? Hmm

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 30/09/2018 20:27

Get a grip LeftRightCentre. I’m not sure why you read my comment as sarcasm, because it wasn’t at all.

RepealtheGRA is a warrior and I’m sure her daughters are very lucky to have her.

LeftRightCentre · 30/09/2018 20:22

'Men don't like women who say no.'

LeftRightCentre · 30/09/2018 20:20

Same here, Starling. A biological female competing in sports against a biological male can be killed, depending on the sport, due to the latter's physiological advantage. Tamikka Brents, anyone?

LeftRightCentre · 30/09/2018 20:17

Never mind all the period stuff. FFS. Imagine that! You have to have a functioning uterus and ovaries to have a period. You cannot do so if you are male. How is it ever offensive that biologically female humans menstruate? I don't anymore, I'm menopausal, does that just cancel out my XX chromosomes? Can someone tell that to the grade IV piles I have from pregnancy and childbirth? I'd like to be a man, FFS.

Barbadosgirl · 30/09/2018 20:09

Oh. I didn't take Emma Goldman's post for sarcasm. I was going to say the same about Repeal the GRA's post! Genuine admiration for such a warrior.

Starlings27 · 30/09/2018 20:09

Mumsnet peaktransed me. I was wandering along in my liberal cloud, extending the same tolerance to trans women as I would to any minority group, when I started seeing MN threads about trans issues. I read them, at first in opposition, then I read some of the threads about women’s sports and women’s safe spaces, and the more I read, the more I realised the danger trans people and particularly self-id’ing posed to women and girls. Oh, and I fucking hate CIS too.

ButtermilkBiscuits · 30/09/2018 20:06

I'm actually going to change my answer...Caitlin Jenner made me really angry but Lily Madigan pushed me right over the edge.

LeftRightCentre · 30/09/2018 20:03

What a wonderful role model you are for your daughters!

What, that she doesn't want her daughters' rights to say NO, her personal space, her boundaries, her rights as a biological female that have been enshrined in law by the collective actions of so many previous women eroded so that she is labelled a hate criminal for not wanting intact males in her legislated personal space or even the right to say No, I don't want this, without its being a crime? And that's a poor example? Righty-o. Hmm

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 30/09/2018 19:56

I was never political, I’m not even educated, I would rather spend my time and money shopping and at the beauticians, but this is a hill I am prepared to die on. And I mean that literally, I will die chained to railings in Downing Street before my daughters rights are taken.

What a wonderful role model you are for your daughters!

RepealtheGRA · 30/09/2018 19:34

I’ve lurked on here for about 8 years to learn big words and legislation to beat my daughters school with, they wouldn’t accept the sheer scale of the problem they have with misogyny and sexual harassment.

I started to become aware the posters here had an issue with trans, the first time I really thought ooooh was when they were threads about ‘Anna Lee’ being up for a woman’s position. Then when my daughter and I signed the 38 degrees petition that was removed I sent my first angry email and realised at some point I was actually going to have to do something. At Lily Madigan I got the real rage and went to twitter to gather evidence to tackle my MP. I peaked soooo hard on twitter. At this stage in the game I am beyond fucking angry, I must email at least one organisation daily, my MP is sick to death of hearing from me, I donate to every crowdfunder going and I’ve bought all the T-shirts.

I was never political, I’m not even educated, I would rather spend my time and money shopping and at the beauticians, but this is a hill I am prepared to die on. And I mean that literally, I will die chained to railings in Downing Street before my daughters rights are taken.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/09/2018 19:25

It was less a single peak and more like being stuck in the Himalayas, but the cotton ceiling demands that lesbians PC themselves out of their lack of interest in cocks were where my long climb began. At this point I'm ready to offer my services as a sherpa, I've hit so many peaks.

happydappy2 · 30/09/2018 19:21

All interesting points, what I find bizarre is that most transphobia presumably comes from men, hence transwomen scared of using men’s bathrooms, yet the speed at which women voicing concerns about TW entering women’s spaces, are labelled transphobic is very telling. The puberty blockers being given to children with no clinical trials is scandalous, it is just so obvious that this is driven by big pharma wanting to make money.

leonaza · 30/09/2018 18:54

There are so many things. But when India Willoughby was on CBB and she made such a big deal about how she was a woman and leapt on anyone who even slipped up on the orthodoxy, then found it perfectly acceptable to speak about drag queens as practically subhuman, it made me think - you don't even respect the right of others to identify in the way they chose, it's just your right that matters. She is obviously just one person, but it pointed up the contradictions in the approach to these issues.

sunshinemantra · 30/09/2018 18:13

@ignatiusjreilly same here, it was the cis woman term, blood runs cold with fury at the derogatory and subjective nature of women being sub labelled. To accept this label is to accept we are sub standard humans who should be assimilated back into 1950s housewives.

AuntyFreeze · 30/09/2018 18:09

And I led the call for a gender neutral toilet provision at our workplace, until this shit started.

(I still support non-binary toilets, as well as there are also sex-segregated ones)