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What peak transed you

309 replies

Politelygiveszerofucks · 29/09/2018 18:57

I know this has probably been done to death, not sure if there is another thread somewhere, but briefly, what was it that peak transed you? I don't mean long philosophical essays, but was there something or a specific incident which suddenly made that lightbulb switch on?

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TeenTimesTwo · 29/09/2018 19:42

Girl Guides and the Hampstead swimming ponds.

Greenfliesarenice · 29/09/2018 19:41

Claire Darbyshire killing their father. After seeing the mugshot I was so astounded that they were described as the daughter I started googling to see if anyone else had noticed an issue. Stumbled onto Mumsnet feminist board and the rest is history.

dementedma · 29/09/2018 19:38

trans women are women. No they aren't, they are transwomen
some women have penises. No they don't. men have penises.

the whole encroachment into womens' spaces by men claiming to be women.

Anlaf · 29/09/2018 19:37

ah pips bunce. Has done a fair bit for feminism, Pips has but not the way pips thinks

feesh · 29/09/2018 19:35

That bloke from Credit Suisse winning a women’s business award

Anlaf · 29/09/2018 19:34

actually - the prisons thing on here stopped me in my tracks. I couldn't explain why it was actually ok to include a male-bodied offender in a woman's prison.

tbh I'd spared little thought for women in prison before then. Was a good, if cognitively dissonant, lib fem

ecosomething · 29/09/2018 19:34

Never peak transed. I have always found the concept of guys being women impossible to believe and highly patronising. For ages the only critiques I saw were from a christian right family values perspective. But then Julie Bindel had her controversial but groundbreaking guardian article published and bingo I was on board with it from day one.

TransposersArePosers · 29/09/2018 19:33

TwistedStitch The woman (who may be masquerading as a man) stance of Crimewatch regarding Hauxwell did it for me, too. I just couldn't believe my eyes.

Swim England got my interest on here and from then on in, I mostly read the feminist chat boards (was always chat and AIBU before)

The everyday misogyny everywhere is so shocking and yet my woke / naive niece thinks that man can identify as women and be lesbians. She has no idea what she is allowing to be taken from her.

HamiltonCork · 29/09/2018 19:33

Alex Drummond - "broadening the bandwidth of what it means to be a woman"

GET. TO. FUCK

AyeRobot · 29/09/2018 19:32

Dittany and Kim on here.

Anlaf · 29/09/2018 19:31

no platforming of Germaine Greer

I was unbothered by Jenner winning the woman's award.

Uncomfortable at cheerleading on Jezebel.com of kids who wanted to medically transition.

But when they tried to stop Germaine speaking it was hold on a fucking minute

MissTrinket · 29/09/2018 19:31

When Jenner was transitioning I thought, "It'll be hairstylists, make up artists, fabulous clothes - why not; it's no skin off my shapely nose. Obviously, we knows she's not a woman, she knows she's not a woman, but I'm OK with pretending she is."
Then - Woman of the Year, and the incredulous, creeping horror of realising that not only does Jenner consider herself a woman - so do all the people who voted for her.
The earth moved for me then, and I'm still trying to find my feet.

happydappy2 · 29/09/2018 19:31

Also reading about James/Jennifer Pritzker, Martine/Martin Rathblatt, both mature transwomen who amassed their wealth while Male, had children then transitioned, have huge interests in pharmaceutical companies & are totally pushing this agenda, so people become lifelong medical patients needing surgery, hormones, implants etc etc. This is not a grass roots movement. I liken it to when we sent cigarettes to the troops to keep their morale up, before we knew how poisonous they were.

KipperTheFrog · 29/09/2018 19:31

Seeing photos of "women" with full beards etc. The phrase "lady dick" and lesbians being called bigots for not wanting to have sex with a "lady dick"
I lurk on here a lot and have learnt so much from the wonderful women here.

XXaghast · 29/09/2018 19:29

and specifically it was Jenner's speech on receiving the Woman of the Year award, what a fucking insult

XXaghast · 29/09/2018 19:27

Jenner then Huntly

NopeNi · 29/09/2018 19:25

I can't remember what made me come over from the "oh just be nice and live and let live" side, it was a culmination of things and mostly the lack of logic.

  • the idea of male and female brains, of innate sex knowledge, like some religious belief
  • the illogic of the phrase "transwomen are women"
  • the entrenching of gender stereotypes
  • the lack of definitions around "trans", their attitude to "truscum"
  • the contradictions (like "transwomen have always been in women's spaces and have always passed and there's never been a problem" - but also "they're the most victimised group in society and all laws all need to be changed because they're hated and bullied so much")
  • the fake suicide statistics which have been swallowed by everyone and reported by everyone
  • the way that any studies are banned
  • any discussions are banned
  • women's sports, scholarships, refuges, political positions, lesbianism, all gone or under attack

Incredible times.

MissCheevious · 29/09/2018 19:24

The phrase 'lady dick'

RandomlyChosenName · 29/09/2018 19:24

Reading the argument that a woman is anyone who feels like a woman, so what does a woman feel like? And the slow realisation that, as someone who isn't interested in makeup, handbags and dresses, the only thing that makes a woman a woman is biology. Otherwise I am not a woman, which makes no sense as I am.

SmallBee · 29/09/2018 19:22

Rachel Dozel. It made me realise I genuinely don't understand the difference between the two and no one could explain it. At all.

hellandhairnets · 29/09/2018 19:22

Gradual climb. CJ as woman of the year. A weird conversation when I asked a TRA "but how did you know you were really a woman" and was told something hideously stereotypical about liking pink toys, playing with dolls and "softness". Also informed that no difference whatsoever between onset of periods in teenage girls and taking female hormones in adulthood Hmm. Rounded on by wokemaidens for even questioning this.

Dug further in pursuit of "am I going mad, surely other people are seeing what I'm seeing, as in, blatant misogyny and weirdness and a distinctly unsettling feeling of my own life experiences being appropriated?"

Discovered - well, all this. That such things are all apparently standard right-on belief these days. Then cotton ceiling. Then crazy TRA reverse-speak on Twitter and elsewhere and the lies and obvious manipulation tactics and hate for women and thought - erm, this looks just like narcissistic abuse and coercion. Oh! And so it turned out to be.

joystir59 · 29/09/2018 19:18

The idea that a man can call himself a woman and a lesbian.

VickyEadie · 29/09/2018 19:14

Jenner. Cotton ceiling. Labour and its women's officers, etc.

lydiamajora · 29/09/2018 19:14

Caitlyn for me, too, though mine was more about the fact that no one could give me a good explanation of why Caitlyn Jenner is a woman but Rachel Dolezal isn't black. That really made me stop and actually think through all of the niggling thoughts I had been studiously pretending not to notice.

After that, it was one thing after another after another after another...

Opheliah · 29/09/2018 19:14

I never peak transed. As a sex worker since a young woman, we have always had women described as women, post op trans women described as transsexuals, and chicks with a dick described as such.
If a "woman" described as a woman was sent out on a job but it turned out they either a) had a dick or b) had an inverted dick all hell would break lose. The worker would be at extreme risk.

We all know what a woman is. It's beyond me that TWAW has gained any traction at all.