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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Poppyred85 · 04/11/2018 09:16

Well, this has livened up my Sunday morning housewifely and motherly duties no end.

calpop · 04/11/2018 08:33

Joss you post like a bloke.

FermatsTheorem · 04/11/2018 08:28

Yes, it's really surreal. First time through the thread PrincessWotsit's posts come across as just an annoying and somewhat vindictive attempt at a detail ("look I found someone who says Posie was nasty to her back when they were school kids"). Then when you re-read it with the benefit of hindsight, knowing Princess is JP - it's like this textbook case study of raging narcissism in action, and also (unintentionally) utterly hilarious.

NotTerfNorCis · 04/11/2018 08:18

Whoah that's bizarre. So this Princess person links to Prior's Twitter without ever once saying they are Prior, until eventually:

OH god, how dense, I'm not even trying to suggest I'm not Joss, so save it. Obviously this is me.... christ!

Suggests a total lack of empathy just for starters.

FermatsTheorem · 04/11/2018 07:53

NotTerf Prior did read this. The poster PrincessConsuelaWotsit who appears on page 2 and talks about how wonderful Prior is, in the third person, eventually admits several pages later, to being Prior.

I really need to find out how to do that "crying with laughter" emoji I've seen on here. Grin (with added tears). Or perhaps that old rich text format only favourite, ROFLMAO.

R0wantrees · 04/11/2018 07:51

All you know is what it's like to be as white transwoman (and even then, a white transwoman living in very specific circumstances).

Joss Prior has of course also lived as a white male, boy & man, prior to transitioning.

OP posts:
NotTerfNorCis · 04/11/2018 07:33

I saw Prior arguing with a black male Twitter user the other day. Prior claimed that second wave feminism was basically racist , while the other poster disagreed. Prior told the other poster that he didn't know what he was talking about; essentially, Prior was invalidating the other person's experiences. I wish I could have reminded Prior:

You don't know what it's like to be a black man.

You don't know what it's like to be a woman.

All you know is what it's like to be as white transwoman (and even then, a white transwoman living in very specific circumstances).

Your views on feminism are inevitably shaped by the fact you are a transwoman. That doesn't mean your interpretation of feminism is the only valid one. Far from it, in fact. Your understanding of feminism is likely to distort it from its real purpose - helping women.

I hope Prior reads this because Prior needs to be told these things.

GeorgeFayne · 04/11/2018 04:09

Joss Prior's tag line from Twitter:

"Trans woman. Ingredients: carbon, sarcasm, 17β-estradiol, stardust extract, spices. (May contain nuts)"

No comment. And I honestly did not edit that.

LillyoftheCentralValley · 04/11/2018 02:59

*As for KW, the independant Prison authority messed up big time!!

Nothing to do with trans people or laws or grc's, because that independant body has autonomy above those laws and rights anyway.*

There's this thing facts are inconvenient activists do.

"He's not one of ours, not really."

The more things change, you know.

SSmith55 · 04/11/2018 02:32

I think feminism means something different in USA than Europe, as in Europe it only means fighting abuse and subjugation of women. Such as women didn't have as many rights and were less represented in their own country. It wasn't until recently women had the right to not be raped by her husband. In USA it seems to be an insult by men who hate women, who spend their time searching out examples of idiots who talk nonsense to say all women who fight against abuse are like that. Funny how they spend to much time online whinging against women, filling comment sections no matter what the subject as an excuse to whine on against feminists and saying what women should want, but no woman finds an abusive misogynist who feels threatened by women who have rights against them to be a turn on

SSmith55 · 04/11/2018 02:31

I think Europe is in danger from USA culture on the internet. Men and women in the USA dislike each other more than in Europe. I don't know if it's because they think they're only country with free speech so many think they should talk nonsense for the sake of it, but I'm so fed up with coming across angry abusive men from the USA online. Like those angry Incels who can't understand it why women prefer to sleep with men who want to make them feel good, or those mgtow men who say they don't want women, but instead of leaving women alone to have hero gentlemen, if you read their comments, they talk with each other about ways to try and make women feel bad.
Europe has more a history of romance and chivalry where men and women like each other

DuckingGoodPJs · 01/10/2018 08:47

Thankyou for your concern TTT, leave you @'s and I will unblock you.....

Shameless (and lazy) attempt at doxxing women.
Got your number Princess

Ereshkigal · 28/09/2018 18:24

I don't blame you.

FloralBunting · 28/09/2018 17:01

Miranda, I am not surprised. That's bloody vicious stuff.

mirandayardley · 28/09/2018 16:22

I was really upset with what he said to me. I forwarded these to his employer by email.

FloralBunting · 28/09/2018 16:18

Oh what a guy to have your corner, eh? Actually hateful. Delightedly calling Posie a bitch, and all those messages to Miranda? Yep. He's a regular humanitarian.

SlowlyShrinking · 28/09/2018 16:05

Well, Leighton definitely seems like a nice bloke and not a vitriolic trans activist at all 😳

MistOnTheWater · 28/09/2018 16:02

miranda I'm blaming you for making me look at that (not my natural curiosity no way)
I now want to drill a hole in my head and pour Dettol in.

mirandayardley · 28/09/2018 15:32

I saw a link to a tweet from Joss Prior that included a screen grab of someone who knew Posie IRL, he’s called Leighton Muelller. He of course was making nice to Joss. Here’s what Leighton tweeted at me a couple of years ago, some trans ally hey.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/09/2018 14:28

Ooh! I got zubbed.

Apologies all, I think I may have misgendered. My error! As a cunty radicalised wannabe woman I should know better!

WomenMakePurchasingDecisions · 28/09/2018 11:49

Mums and homemakers, huh? Those cunty radicalised feminists.

heresyandwitchcraft · 28/09/2018 11:47

She's not advocating breaking the law, the EA allows you to separate by biological sex.
Ta for the Churchill comparison again, because I think his actions in defending the country speak for themselves. Doesn't mean I have to agree with all his views. I think Posie would be chuffed. I found that segment quite inspiring!
Why did you go from a Churchill immediately to Nazi though? This seems historically all over the place regarding references. They were on opposing sides. What WW2 figure would you compare yourself to?
I would like to know more about the symbolism of these historic events in your view as they apply to this debate. This forum is open to anyone who wants to discuss things and doesn't break the guidelines, so I am happy you've come on.

ToeToToe · 28/09/2018 11:45

sausagebap - and the nappies. Don't forget the nappies.

sausagebap · 28/09/2018 11:33

as opposed to the echo chamber of anime and porn-addicted straight men on twitter and their cowering handmaidens? lol hun ok.

PencilsInSpace · 28/09/2018 11:25

The lies are still up though and still circulating. Here they are. You can access this archived version even if you're blocked, without having to log out or open a private tab (or give Joss your @ so you can be unblocked Hmm).

Here are three videos showing what happened:

Here is Maria's account. I was there, I saw what happened. Maria's account is accurate.