Angelos Sofocleous on R4 Today (7.46am Thurs)

Shakira omg
That was just blah blah stock phrases being spun out
No student I know would just roll eyes 👀 and ignore the mantra
Was like trying to tease an original thought from the air

Angelos Sofocleous

would you like a job as a lawyer?

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SpeakingWoman

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I also cc'd my complaint to
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Odd how being socialised into being nice costs women their legal rights where it costs men like Justin Webb nothing - except the wider societal harms about which they affect not to care.

The phrase ‘transwomen are women’ is naively understood to be simply a courtesy to a male trans person, a sign of allyship. If you don’t join in, because you stick to the definition of women which is biologically correct, you are nailing your colours to the mast and this is risky. There is a huge amount of abuse directed at women who refuse to do as they are told, and this fact demonstrates that the use of ‘transwomen are women’ is not as benign as it first seems. If you wish to be ‘nice’ to someone, that is your free choice, but if you are punished for NOT being ‘nice’ then it is no free choice at all and it begins to look more like bullying and coercion.

‘Transwomen are women’ as a slogan is nothing to do with being nice. It is a political mantra: it does not define its terms and it is used to shut down all dissent.*

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Shakira was pretty unimpressive on Question Time recently.

I bet the gulf between most students and the student politics crowd is wider than ever.

No according to Shakira freedom of speech isn't a priority! She was worse that any politicians only answering with stock phrases.
Goodness when I was at university student politics had many faults but I can't imagine any student politician of the time saying that.

They did a follow-up with the president of the NUS, Shakira Martin. Not surprisingly, her views were:
Oppressed minority.
Safe spaces.

Slightly surprisingly, she completely dismissed any discussion of freedom of speech as being of no interest to students.

He was doing it in a special sad voice as well

The fucking special fucking sad fucking voice is fucking really fucking beginning fucking to fucking piss fucking me fucking off.

I didn't use enough fuckings there, by the way.

I have just emailed Today to say how delighted I was to hear the words “women don’t have penises” uttered on the BBC.
And that whereas stats about attacks on trans people are unreliable, those on violence against women are verifiable and increasingly being encouraged by trans activists, so please not to accept their untruths uncritically.

Listening now, he does sound good! Really measured. Almost everything the interviewer said sounded daft, I felt quite sorry for him, you could hear him think "What the hell have I just been forced to say?"

Will Justin be attacked for using the term ‘transsexuals”?

I have always found Webb to be a strange blend of journalist and someone who actively plays "small P" politics. I remember from his time in the US that his reports often seemed "captured" by his circumstances rather than being properly objective.

You did Kerala

He was doing it in a special sad voice as well

Did I just hear Justin Webb on radio 4 basically saying we all have to say a thing that is not true and has negative consequences for half the population because to do otherwise is "mean"? Wow. Disappointed in him. Where's your critical thinking man?

Rain that made me laugh

Webb saying that transgender ppl have the worst life of any minority’s group EVER

they are attacked on the street blah blah blah
8 think Angelous would have been surprised by Webb’s statements as an introduction but Angelous held his line

I turned my radio on and the very first thing I heard today was ' women don't have penises'' excellent start to the day but for a split second I actually thought I was cracking up and hearing things.

I think they said someone else is on after 8 am? Presumably with an opposing view

Justin Webb was talking about "transexuals'. I think people just don't realise how wide the trans umbrella is

Pity he didn’t have longer.

At last, someone on the BBC has said it "Women don't have penises".

Thank you Angelous Sofocleous.

Just listened to this, can’t believe Justin Webb suggested that saying a woman doesn’t have a penis perhaps shouldn’t be allowed as “free speech” (rather than what it is, of course, a statement of fact) due to its impact on other people. Horrifying.

Great guy. Was there an attempt to shout him down at the beginning?