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Are we imagining things?

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Littlemouseroar · 26/09/2018 19:21

Got sniggered out of a meeting with two female unionists at work when I asked what they were doing to make sure no men got into our loos.

(Poss identifying but heck it appears im an activist now)

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RatRolyPoly · 27/09/2018 20:23

Legitimate? Challenge? What do you mean OldCrone? Do you mean saying to someone "are you sure you're in the right loo love?" to someone who's just minding their own business? Or saying, "your behaviour is inappropriate" to someone who's being nefarious? Both are fine, surely? Isn't that obvious? But insisting to someone simply going about their business that you're quite sure they're a man because they look like one, even though they say they're not, and they're not doing anything to warrant what could very well be your totally incorrect assertion and confrontation, well no. Obviously that's not how we interact in society is it. What do you think? Do you think that counts as a "legitimate challenge"?

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Littlemouseroar · 27/09/2018 20:20

Im not sure about enforcing adherence. In this crazy world its looking more and more like adherence the trope of ‘women STFU. I have a right to be here and you’re committing a hate crime to say otherwise’.

AFAIK, not happened at work yet, but I shouldnt have to be on edge in case it does.

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RatRolyPoly · 27/09/2018 20:16

Sooo... what are you proposing Tonno?

OldCrone · 27/09/2018 20:16

What steps exactly are you proposing to ensure strict adherence to the rules??
Do you think it is legitimate to challenge someone who looks male who is in the women's loo?

TonnoEMaionese · 27/09/2018 20:03

What steps exactly are you proposing to ensure strict adherence to the rules??

Well, it used to be an honour system, worked fairly well, then a load of people with plenty of entitlement, but very little honour decided that they'd do whatever they liked and who cares what the rest of us thought.

RatRolyPoly · 27/09/2018 20:02

The least you can do is have mens, womens, disabled access, and unisex toilets

But as the OP says, what is anyone doing to do to police people into using the "correct" loo? I mean seriously, she has a point, what steps can anyone take to stop someone using the loo they think is right for them? Short of ID checks for everyone it's simply a case of if you look like you're in the right room no-one looks twice, right?

What steps exactly are you proposing to ensure strict adherence to the rules??

IStandWithPosie · 26/09/2018 23:06

and not snigger.

This!!^

I mean the idea of a woman being afraid is so hilarious Hmm men never hurt women. What a ridiculous idea.

AssassinatedBeauty · 26/09/2018 23:04

Because everyone is totally trustworthy of course. Particularly men, who are not at all known for doing things they shouldn't in unisex toilets.

UpstartCrow · 26/09/2018 23:04

No it isnt. The least you can do is have mens, womens, disabled access, and unisex toilets, and not snigger.

RatRolyPoly · 26/09/2018 23:03

I think the most you can do really is put little pictures on the doors and trust everyone to go about their business.

RatRolyPoly · 26/09/2018 22:59

Do you mean like passport checks?

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Littlemouseroar · 26/09/2018 22:56

Its never going to happen. Although of course we must make sure that people who have completely transed get into our toilets.

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DuggeesWoggle · 26/09/2018 22:40

What was their response? Apart from the sniggering?

speakingwoman · 26/09/2018 22:39

Well done for speaking up.