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Selling your body is just another normal student job now apparently

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Blackberrypiesforbreakfast · 25/09/2018 23:09

A sex workers cooperative actually have a stand at a university freshers fair. I am really scared by how quickly this is being normalised.

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Kyanite · 26/09/2018 06:41

It's probably doing webcamming rather than on the streets prostitution.

This is what comes from student debt...tuition fees and no maintenance grants.

woman11017 · 26/09/2018 06:39

Clearly a child protection issue for school 6th forms recommending any universities with these practices.
Worth contacting them too.

Universities will not want to lose our clever feminist young women students because of this.
Especially when all potential students are their income stream.

woman11017 · 26/09/2018 05:56

Is there a link we can use OP to contact university en masse? Thank you.
PS: Is there any more news on this one?
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/beer-mats-university-of-sussex-students-sexist-brushbox-dental-care-a8547226.html

Bowlofbabelfish · 26/09/2018 05:54

Give it time, soon the job centre will be advertising sex work as a valid job and women who refuse to apply will be sanctioned.

It already has in Germany. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/1482371/If-you-dont-take-a-job-as-a-prostitute-we-can-stop-your-benefits.html

This is a concerted effort to roll back all women’s rights until we are either on our backs or in the kitchen. It’s a men’s sexual rights movement and more and more it’s looking like a men’s paraphilia normalisation movement.

NotANotMan · 26/09/2018 05:52

Retweeted by LGBT Brighton. This is post modern, neo liberal politics in action. Terfs and swerfs are bigots and normalising prostitution to teenage girls leaving home for the first time is totally normal and fine.

Selling your body is just another normal student job now apparently
Charliethefeminist · 26/09/2018 05:31

Rebecca: a 'client'?
Turph: yuh huh

This is dressed up as 'we need to look after the girls'. In reality there will be (certainly should be) university welfare services who can do the same without encouraging and normalising prostitution, and making it seem like just another club that wimen can join.

It will be run and staffed by women. But men are behind it.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 05:16

It's an outreach resource for student sex workers, tbh I don't think they are sellling it as a career option.

No, but it's normalising 'sex work'. The effect on the young people - of both sexes - of that can't be good.

OlennasWimple · 26/09/2018 02:43

I live somewhere that prostitution is legal if in a licensed brothel. So there are many young girls who fight tooth and nail to get a job at the licensed establishments, because otherwise their alternative is to work at the unlicensed places which are beyond grim.

I will never ever support legalised prostitution, in part because the argument that it protects women against the dodgy places just isn't true

And any student union that support this shit needs to take a hard look at itself (though hardly suprising, given that the NUS stance on sex workers is that they shoudl be supported and not be evicted from student residences etc Hmm

JillyArmeeen · 26/09/2018 02:02

It's not about "people who do that" the point is when sex work is legalised, those jobs become legitimate work.
So if you're at the job centre looking for work or being forced to find a job with more hours even if you already have a job that works around your caring responsibilities, you could be penalised for not taking up any job that provides that work/extra hours.
Have a little think about the sorts of women that would impact.

LassWiADelicateAir · 26/09/2018 01:56

The Freshers Fair stand is scary but I wonder if it is some sort of joke (albeit in bad taste), ie not really sex workers advertising their wares because it just doesn't make sense that they would do that

It's an outreach resource for student sex workers, tbh I don't think they are sellling it as a career option. They give advice on sexual health issues amongst other things. Their website looks as if one could ask for advice on that without actually being a prostitute.

I don't seriously see legalised brothels happening here.

JillyArmeeen · 26/09/2018 01:54

Why wouldn't it be in jobcentres?
If a mega brothel opened and needed workers they could advertise those legal jobs. Not here yet thank god but there are people advocating for the full legalisation of prostitution in this country..
Nothing to do with individual clients, they just walk in and rent a room for an hour. No questions asked.
There was a thread here couple of moths ago about mega brothels in Germany. Linked to the red light district in Leeds.. Interesting reading.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/09/2018 01:51

Do some reading about what's happened since prostitution was legalized in Germany, Rebecca. "That would never happen" often turns out to be "that's already happened".

Rebecca36 · 26/09/2018 01:45

AverageWoman Wed 26-Sep-18 01:27:12
Alas, it is years since we were at university.

It may be that, these days, women's rights seem to be going backwards, in comparison.

For example, the current scandal about GirlGuiding opening up a girls' network to dubiousness regarding boys and menl. And the fact that boys and men are not really wanted in a female-only situation.
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I fear you may be right.

Rebecca36 · 26/09/2018 01:43

The reason people haven't come across it is because anyone who did it kept it a strict secret. When I said it was common I didn't mean, like,50% of students, only that some do and that has always been the case. No-one knew.

The Freshers Fair stand is scary but I wonder if it is some sort of joke (albeit in bad taste), ie not really sex workers advertising their wares because it just doesn't make sense that they would do that.

No I don't think that sort of work will be found at the jobcentre, ever. People who do that wouldn't be going there to find jobs and a client would have to be in content with the jobcentre which means giving contact details. No way!

Terph I didn't open the 'adult' link, scared of what I might see :-). Reading a bit about it in the media and seeing the odd thing on TV is about my limit. (Oh I am Rebecca btw, not been anything else and only joined here a short while ago.)

AverageWoman · 26/09/2018 01:27

Alas, it is years since we were at university.

It may be that, these days, women's rights seem to be going backwards, in comparison.

For example, the current scandal about GirlGuiding opening up a girls' network to dubiousness regarding boys and menl. And the fact that boys and men are not really wanted in a female-only situation.

LassWiADelicateAir · 26/09/2018 01:11

It wasn't common when I was at uni. My son's at uni right now, he manages quite well on his student loans and holiday jobs, why would it be different for the girls?

It wasn't common when I was (never came across it) My son's at uni and is managing.

AverageWoman · 26/09/2018 00:57

PP:
"This is just a well off man's wet dream."

Yes, and it makes me sick. Women are under attack.

JillyArmeeen · 26/09/2018 00:49

Your point about the job centre is quite scary and I've heard it being made before.
Who is pushing this? We know some of the names of the people who are all for porn and prostitution. The intersection with trans rights activists is interesting to say the least.
If legalisation of prostitution happens like it has in Germany, those jobs will be posted in job centres, and it will be women like me, single mothers or unskilled workers that will be forced to take them, or be sanctioned.
Its an mra and incels wet dream.

Turph · 26/09/2018 00:21

This is just a well off man's wet dream
It's a punter's wet dream. Punters like to imagine their use of prostituted women is normal and commonplace. They like to think women do it for fun and even because they enjoy the sex. Hence why I asked what the poster's username was...

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 00:14

My son's at uni right now, he manages quite well on his student loans and holiday jobs, why would it be different for the girls

It isn't.

How the hell was this stand allowed at an event aimed primarily at teenagers?Angry

noeffingidea · 26/09/2018 00:08

It wasn't common when I was at uni. My son's at uni right now, he manages quite well on his student loans and holiday jobs, why would it be different for the girls?

ToeToToe · 26/09/2018 00:07

It's not sodding common to work as a prostitute when at university. This is just a well off man's wet dream. It's laughable - they can think they're "helping a young woman get her degree" - rather than the probable reality, which is that they're part of the mass-rape of trafficked women & girls.

Turph · 25/09/2018 23:59

Rebecca36
You think it was ever common? I disagree.
adultwork.com
What's your username?

SPOFS · 25/09/2018 23:59

I will be writing to this university and student union over this. Please do the same. Sad

heresyandwitchcraft · 25/09/2018 23:51

.......................................................................................................................................................................................... nope.