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Selling your body is just another normal student job now apparently

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Blackberrypiesforbreakfast · 25/09/2018 23:09

A sex workers cooperative actually have a stand at a university freshers fair. I am really scared by how quickly this is being normalised.

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NotANotMan · 26/09/2018 13:49

I have literally just been told by a detective working in special investigations that they are extremely busy due to the massive number of sexual crimes reported during freshers week. She said it's all student on student crimes. This is what we are sending our daughters off into.

CiaoBrucester · 26/09/2018 13:02

@noeffingidea mass grooming is correct. Changed career now but I previously worked as a student support adviser in a sixth form working with 16 - 19 year olds. I was in my early twenties so there wasn't a huge age gap between me and the students but we might as well have come from different planets in regards to what they had been exposed to and accepted as normal in their intimate relationships.

noeffingidea · 26/09/2018 12:50

Racecardriver I mentioned this on another thread. Young girls and women are being mass groomed to have no sexual boundaries of their own and to see prostitution/ stripping etc as acceptable work, a way to top your loans up or to pay off credit card debt.
The fact is that male and female students are entitled to the same level of finance, pay the same fees and rents, and same living expenses, but there is no concept that boys might have to do 'sex work' (or any other dodgy activities) in order to pay their way through uni.
This absolutely stinks and any university that doesn't see that is complicit as far as I'm concerned.

titchy · 26/09/2018 12:19

Only 5 likes I'm glad to say.

Racecardriver · 26/09/2018 12:09

Youth and the environments are becoming increasingly sexualise but in a really alarming rape kind of way. There was a post on here a few weeks ago about a university flyer with a picture of a woman with semen dripping out of her mouth and sonething about spit or swallow. At my university the number of people (men and women) expecting right sex, chocking, anal sex etc from one night stands/early on in relationships is a bit alarming (especially when you consider that about of the third of the cohort are waiting for sex until marriage). Then you have the whole white bitches who won't fuck brown guts are racist/I bought you a drink you have to sleep with me/not sleeping with me because I have the wrong genetailia is transphobia thing going on. I'm 23 and luckily seemed to just miss out on this shit but the generation bellow me a seriously sexually screwed up.

susurration · 26/09/2018 12:09

When I was uni 12 years ago there were several girls who worked in lap dancing and strip clubs. This was just a small town as well. They might not have had stands at the freshers fair but it's been happening a long time.

CiaoBrucester · 26/09/2018 12:02

I'm really shocked. I just don't understand why sex work being normalised and offered up as a financial solution to students? It's possible to have an outreach service for anyone who might find themselves in this position without making it seem like a lifestyle choice.
It's 10 years since I started at uni, I was a 4.5 hour drive from my friends and family and was the only person in my student house working and paying my own way (everyone else had parents subbing them). I quite often found myself struggling between the social side and...well eating! I often think back to those 3 years - I was so vulnerable and so isolated. I worry how I would have been affected by this narrative of normality!

After leaving Uni I was working an unpaid internship for a media company in London. After two months I was overdrawn and miserable and back home. I went to the jobcentre and one of the 'media' jobs my adviser pulled up was a cam-girl opportunity. My adviser was apologetic and red faced at the time but it doesn't feel like we are too far from a future where young women will be expected to just get on with it because sex work is just work!
p.s. I am so, so sick of reading those drip feed Sugar Daddy articles!

MoltenLasagne · 26/09/2018 11:01

I knew a girl at uni who got into the Sugar Daddy thing in first year, after reading an article on it and thinking it was a great idea. She had a breakdown and ended up having to retake first year and then dropped out due to significant mental health issues including being sectioned. This is the reality of prostitution, not the stories they sell.

LassWiADelicateAir · 26/09/2018 08:48

The government had considered making brothels an exception on moral grounds, but decided that it would be too difficult to distinguish them from bars

From The Telegraph article. Really? They can't see a difference?

BettyDuMonde · 26/09/2018 08:34

University/education is supposed to be a route out of this grim shitness, not a route into it.

I went to uni at 25 and had already been a ‘sex worker’ albeit in a different capacity (phone sex lines, Mayfair hostessing). There is no way this should be normalised.

Any students already involved in sex work can access support through the usual channels (there are some brilliant, dedicated support workers out there). Having a stand at Freshers Fair is super fucked up.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 08:27

I had one friend at university who had skipped a year so was 17 when she started. A literal child

Me too, its not that uncommon.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/09/2018 08:20

I've met a number of women who've worked in the sex industry, and every single one of them has been mentally and emotionally scarred by the experience. There's often a lot of bravado masking that, and a reluctance to admit how much it wears people down while they're still stuck in it, but it's the most soul destroying "job" in the world.

Stop normalizing this shit. It's bad for women and it's bad for society.

NotANotMan · 26/09/2018 08:15

I had one friend at university who had skipped a year so was 17 when she started. A literal child.

deepwatersolo · 26/09/2018 08:10

This is grim. I remember reading some article about some student prostituting herself every now and then in life style magazines, which did start to normalize it, but I never saw it for real, when I studied. Not even the sugar daddy scenario.
As a post doc in the US, though, a colleague had a girl friend, a Student, who had paid off her credit card debt of 10000 this way. They met in a psychiatric ward, he had broken down under the pressure of work in the lab we worked in.
This is no light matter, Prostitution can have severe consequences, normalizing it for students under Financial pressure smacks of predatory behaviour.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 26/09/2018 07:59

I wish I'd only had boys. Feel sick and scared for my daughter.

QuentinWinters · 26/09/2018 07:46

However there were newspaper articles most years about student prostitution even back in my day of full grants and no tuition fees.
PR by men who want to normalize prostitution Angry

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 07:36

Come and play on our wheel of sexual wellbeing!

WTF is on that? It looks as though it says 'pants' and 'key ring' a few times, and 'bubbles', 'candle' and (one) 'condom'Confused

I'd have thought it should be more like Russian roulette and include 'STD', 'unwanted pregnancy' ...

TurfClub · 26/09/2018 07:26

SWOP seems woke as fuck. A couple of days ago they were commemorating the "international day of action in memory of Vanessa Campos, a migrant, trans sex worker in Paris"

Because there aren't any female sex workers killed in the UK or anything, no that never happens.

And yes, they will swerf shame you to hell if you think that sex work is anything other than absolutely fabulous.

And yes, they are promoting this to children

"It's #alevelresultsday2018 and if you are off to @SussexUni or @BIMMBrighton this September then look out for us at their Freshers Fairs for information and advice around #studentlife and #sexwork"

Here's your A Level results kid, school's over now it's time to be a whore.

Annandale · 26/09/2018 07:25

This looks like a health or social support organisation rather than a careers one. Still think it normalises sex work, both for men and for women. I'm also sad to see total acceptance of the inevitability of sex work, which is how i interpret 'no judgement of your choices'+

madcatladyforever · 26/09/2018 07:10

I only met one person who paid her uni fees with prostitution and she is totally fukked up. Last I heard was being sectioned for her own safety.
I don't suppose these people discuss the possible mental health problems associated with this "career".

noeffingidea · 26/09/2018 07:10

emogoo did you know any boys who took up sex work?

NotANotMan · 26/09/2018 07:06

So if we accept that female undergraduate are taking up prostitution to pay for university in greater numbers since (presumably) higher fees and costs of living, are we to shrug and say 'market forces!' And accept the normalisation of commodification of young female bodies and their exploitation by older, more powerful men in exchange for the opportunity to get education??

Marmelised · 26/09/2018 07:04

Don’t agree with freshers fair stand of course nor the implication of normalisation. However there were newspaper articles most years about student prostitution even back in my day of full grants and no tuition fees.

emogoo · 26/09/2018 06:54

I went to uni 5 years ago, a couple of girls on my degree course took up sex work. So more common than some people think...

woman11017 · 26/09/2018 06:52

It's probably doing webcamming rather than on the streets prostitution.
Pornography is prostitution and prostitution is rape.
Procurers are pimps. Simple Smile
School and universities are putting themselves in a precarious legal position.